Make more ap junglers viable then only evelynn

Frozoh·4/20/2018, 3:22:52 PM·5 votes·4,944 views

When i get into champ select and i see a yasuo/zed/talon mid and ask to pick a mage they most of the time ignore or don't care about the team comp (because they usually get played by otps) and then we get into a full ad situation. I mostly play bruisers toplane and don't want to be forced to pick kennen (the only ap champ i can play) if it's bad against their team comp just so that they don't stack armor or pick almost no kill pressure (unless autofilled) malphite top that stack armor very well and be unkillable later in the game. You can say the support can pick brand too for big AOE dmg later in teamfights but how many times does that happen when they only want or can play tank supports/passive shield supports. If more heavy ap junglers like Elise or Gragas can be picked up again then this problem would be very rare.

26 Comments

iPooUnicorns4/20/2018, 8:03:12 PM4 votes

One of the biggest issues is how inferior Runic Echoes is compared to the other jungle items.

Colton1474/20/2018, 4:19:10 PM3 votes

Elise Fiddlesticks item 3070

SwiftKitten884/20/2018, 3:27:12 PM3 votes

if they gave Nidalee some more hp and armor, as well has giving her back her full pounce reset when killing a minion/monster and or pouncing to a hunted champion.. (and only keep the incremental reset on pouncing to a hunted CAMP). as well as giving her her % damage hp traps back and just changing the cap to 50/100/150/200/250 instead of a flat 200.

they wouldn't really even need to touch her numbers actual damage numbers to make her viable

Dead flag blues4/20/2018, 4:11:10 PM2 votes

than*

Snowman Arc4/21/2018, 6:52:52 AM1 votes

How about, instead of bitching about your mid laner picking a mage, you play an AP top laner? Rumble is fine, Vlad is strong, as is Ryze, Cassio and LIssandra can be player top. Then you have the tanks like Chogath, Maokai, who deal respectable magic damage early and mid game.

Also, AP junglers are viable. Nidalee is good since she can snowball for freaking hard, Elise is in an ok spot, Eve is fine. Also, there is magic damage coming from ADCs like Varus, Kogmaw.

Dreadlocks4/20/2018, 4:54:50 PM1 votes

I know its not the solution you want to hear.. but i generally just dodge. I'm a Rengar main so if i see my team comp blows or we REALLY need ap, id rather dodge then force a shitty game.

As far as ap junglers, we have evelynn and elise that stand out. The problem is a lot of ap junglers are either "tanks" or they are pushed out of the meta by tanks..

Another alternative is to play champions that do a lot of magic damage, Shyvana, Mundo, Phoenix Udyr..

Generally speaking though if its all AD comp and you're worried about malphite stacking armor and making your entire team useless, then picking an ap Jungler probably isn't enough to solve the issue anyways.. I mean.. maybe if you can get away with fiddlesticks? I just can't think of too many "ap" junglers that would ever want to focus the tank anyways.

Jinzo Torrance4/20/2018, 3:53:41 PM1 votes

Make Evelynn unviable