does malphite counter jax in lane?

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WoonStruck2 votes

Jax you just afk farm, trying to survive until 6. Generally, not that hard.

After you hit 6, you farm like normal, but buffer your ult so you can Q->auto->W or Q->W at 2 stacks. Easy, low mana-cost harass that Malph has to outspend HEAVILY to trade decently. All his armor does nothing against your W and R bonuses.

As Jax, you basically want to afk farm until 2 items. Don't go too hard and Malph won't be able to kill you. Just harass, back off, heal. Your only goal is to keep Malph's shield down if you want kill pressure.

Generally,** Gunblade is your best bet as a first item vs Malph** because it bypasses the most likely defensive items he will build and lets you outsustain any form of damage he can throw out so you can afk farm. Trinity is obviously your next priority (its heavily mitigated by the armor Malph will build, which is why you go gunblade first).

BotRK was heavily nerfed, and almost isn't worth getting anymore early on. Vs other matchups, maybe, but I wouldn't vs Malph.

Most high MMR Jax mains get mostly offensive items, including HP so that your R offers significant tankiness. To them Trinity+gunblade is the best 2 item combo on him in the large majority of games.


Does he counter Jax? He lowers his all-in potential.

Flat out counter? No, unless its a FotM sheep-type player who will only rush Trinity Force+BotRK.

Worst case, Jax can even be successful as tanky AP, if he can farm the lane.

notmarked1 votes

if you are ap

OurLestrade1 votes

People underestimate the damage Malphite can do in lane, against squishies in particular.

Milodic Mellodi1 votes

But I think that's only when you go AP, right?

Papa Slothy3 votes

malph has good base damages

OurLestrade1 votes

I remember going against a Teemo once and practically 100-0ing him at level 6, full tank :P

PhDs Nuts1 votes

Malphite counters more champs than you would think, and has more kill pressure than you would expect.

Jbels1 votes

At a certain point in Lane, Jax will just start out damaging you, and as soon as he gets Bork, you can forget about beating him in a 1v1. However, it's also incredibly hard for Malphite to die to Jax. He has too many ways to just say "Fuck you, we're done fighting, I'm leaving"

paperbIade1 votes

doesn't bork get countered by armor

Jbels1 votes

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doesn't bork get countered by armor

It does, but if the Jax gets fed off of a malphite that doesn't know how to sit back, farm, and not let the Jax kill him, Jax will just out level, out item, and out scale you

Papa Slothy1 votes

from my experiences, early game malph can win quick trades but jax can stick to him and force a decent trade. It all depends on whether you can dodge jax's stun

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