Neat his counterstrike is down nope its up before its over 
she just used her stealth .5 seconds ago and she is stealthed again what is even the counter play if bot loses to vayne as a melee champ what do I do she is stealthed more then she is unsteathed its like 
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Tahminatrix 1 votesAll 3 of those scenarios are ones that you simply wait out and use anything you have to reduce their dps. (Just don't use actual slows because they all have spam able gap closers/dashes.)
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would help against the first two.
The last one you simply need to retaliate against as soon as they leave their shroud.
If your melee champ isn't capable of buying tank items (or you just dont feel like it) and you only want auto attacking items then you should use any tools you have to outrun or disrupt them, 
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SeaWeaboo1 votesseveral melee champs do well against these champs, I have very good success against Jax and Akali with Kled, I don't fight Vaynes so I can't say much about that.
The Ecdysiast1 votesWell, Jax is a direct counter to AA champs.
I actually just responded to another thread which asked if he should be reworked, and I think he should. But not to take away that aspect of him. Keep his strength against auto-based champions, but remove the fact he is one.
SS19861 votesWell, Jax is a direct counter to AA champs.
I actually just responded to another thread which asked if he should be reworked, and I think he should. But not to take away that aspect of him. Keep his strength against auto-based champions, but remove the fact he is one.
Jax is a counter to everything is ult gives him aton of mr and his counter strike reduces aoe damage by 25% so a lot of magic damage is aoe
The Ecdysiast1 votesJax is a counter to everything is ult gives him aton of mr and his counter strike reduces aoe damage by 25% so a lot of magic damage is aoe
Well, yeah. I don't think his ultimate should scale AD and AP. Giving someone defenses for building offense isn't okay.