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The new HUD is bad (detailed)

Hánaz··9 votes·1,756 views

Hello, Im diamond 3 of EUW and... Im confused by this new HUD! When you deleted 2 my mains "AP Master Yi" and "AP Sion" (AP Tryndamere was nerfed too) I had to lose my time finding champions that fit me. After I found them I could continue to play. The EZ became OP because of the new item but I still can ban him in champ select. And now I looked at this and realized I cant do anyting with those changes! Im so confused by the new HUD that I cant play properly!

Minimap: huh what? Why did you moved teamscore, CS and KDA to my minmap? Is that so important to know im 50 CS with 0/8/0 KDA and 3/50 teamscore? And even worse that now there is not only champions moving on minimap but couple of useless numbers I can see any time by pressing Tab. The best you can do is to move it back to the top right corner. The champion icons are near my minimap... OH MY GOD their hp and mana change 24/7 and it distracts me even more than "useless" numbers! You should move them somewhere else. The corners are too big and merge with minimap: too much blue color! The corners must be small but noticeable to distinguish the game and minimap. In short, in the right bottom corner shouldnt be anyting else that minimap . Vision is one of the most important things to win in MOBA games.

Champion icon: why is it so big and in the middle of the panel?! I know how my champion looks and maybe he is cute enought but I have no time for this! I can open champ list and stare at my "fav" for many hours after a successful game but during this I really want to smash him for blocking my vision.

Items and gold: I know what items I bought and its not so important to know my gold amount 24/7 but no! Its in the middle of my window! I can look my gold if I want to base soon not the entire game.

Experience bar: meh... its just inconspicuous for me.

Cooldowns and spells: circles, circles... more circles! When i have 4 spells on a CD and when the one circle is on a half way it looks for me like CD is already gone and I press it... and nothing happends. Why not leave it like it was before? Icon is blue till the CD is gone and its k. After the CD is gone there is a short blue blink that makes me think its still on a CD. I would react faster if it becomes colorful immediately like it was before. And the spell icons are too big. Again, I know the location of my spells and I dont really want to look at them the entire game. The numbers are too small for that size of the icons. It would be better to make a HUGE numbers of a CD so we can see when it ends.

Focus: Too big spaces and face icon. Why? I dont want to see his face I just need to know if its AP or AD Tryndamere plz.

Tab: When I press Tab that means I have a break to see the scores, CS and items. But you made the tab panel so smal like you wanted us to use it during the teamfight. I cant see nicknames, I cant see if someone is ignored and its bad because I can ignore on of my teammates by chance and I wouldnt know it till the end. And again, the color is merge with everything.

Stats: They are not green anymore, inconspicuous and too deep in the corner. The enemy is coming for me and I really need to know how many AD he has 100 or 400.

Also, too big space between my health bar and spell icons.

Im going to take a break in a hope someting will change.

25 Comments

InSingedWeTrust3 votes

Cya.

dEAdbUs1 votes

Senseful answer. Respect other players opinions.

Once you'll ask someone about something, and you'll be ignored same way.

Radnar the bold2 votes

Last week called, they want their "I hate the new hud" post back. Seriously alot of people dont like it, but they are getting used to it.

dEAdbUs1 votes

Does it matter? People can come with new ideas for HUD.

Radnar the bold2 votes

Does it matter? People can come with new ideas for HUD.

These facts have been stated over and over and over agian. Riot is "starting" (slow changes on the pbe) to fix it. Im just tired of people saying "Im leaving league" everytime they change something.

Hánaz1 votes

Its my first post of the rage and hate. The meta changes every patch because of the new items, the AP Ez, sated devourer, cinderhulk and other stuff made the game harder for me BUT I still can ban some of the OPs in champ select. With the new HUD i cant do anyting thats why im mad.

Radnar the bold1 votes

Basically last week a lot of people had this type of post and riot really didnt do anything. People listed facts and info an it just got tiring after awhile.

Hánaz1 votes

The bigger size of a champ icon helps to win more games kappa I really dont understand why would they do this.

DrCyanide2 votes

It's helpful, that's why.

First off, the champion icon barely changed in size. Go ahead, find screenshots from the old HUD, cut out the champion icon and the border they had on it, and lay it over the new one. Next to no difference besides location. Why the middle of the page? Because you're firing more skillshots diagonally than straight down, and the old Icon location was actually more in the way for that.

Second, items being in the center helps a lot for actives. "But I got use to the old way" doesn't mean it isn't helpful for more players. Riot has been experimenting with how to get more people using actives for several patches (see adding Active Icons to the status bar), this is just a more natural progression.

Third, Tab went from being a skyscraper to being more horizontally laid out. You know what they took out? Player names. You know what didn't change? Item icon sizes (again, look for screenshots and compare them).

Now, there are some valid concerns you bring up. There's too much blue used in general (for cooldowns and OOM, the minimap looks odd). Stat icons seem to be too similar, or too hard to read without memorizing what each one does. Someone brought up that you normally want to compare your CS and the Game Time, so having those in different places makes things harder.

Overall the new HUD is an improvement, but it does need some changes. Give it a few more games, I think you'll be surprised how quickly you get use to it.

Hánaz1 votes

You are right items icon size is the same. Im just coufused by this new color and the size of the Tab. The worst changes of me are CD and minimap and Im not so mad about other "mistakes" but still...

DrCyanide1 votes

Yeah, cooldowns bug me too, but there are some changes to them on the PBE, so here's to hoping those make it better.

Saianna1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Radnar the bold,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wq8ErA8E,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-07-30T16:13:26.521+0000)

Seriously alot of people dont like it, but they are getting used to it.

Not exactly. Those who really "did not like it" just stopped asking for old HUD. They just got tired. I for example decided to uninstall LoL because HUD was actually hurting my eyes (not that it was ugly), just accmulated informations in 1 tiny spot of screen made my brain having data overloads.

And ofc there were tons of f***ups with new HUD that i "did not like".

ElJanitorFrank2 votes

What you're saying makes no sense to me. You're calling some numbers useless and other numbers not-useless...? You don't want to know MORE information when you look at the mini map? Okay...taking away that extra information will certainly help you...

The 'stats' doesn't make sense. It still displays a box giving an overview that is almost identical to the previous hud, except in graphic style.

'Tab' also makes no sense to me. It isn't that small, 'I can't see nicknames' Can you elaborate on that? Why would that matter and why can't you see them? Ignoring someone by accident is something that I have NEVER done in the history of League of Legends, and by making the ignore button smaller and only pop up when your mouse is on the faces of the champion portraits makes it more unlikely. This is just a strange nit-pick.

Hánaz1 votes

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You don't want to know MORE information when you look at the mini map? Okay...taking away that extra information will certainly help you...

Thats right I dont want to see useless numbers when I look at minimap. The old minimap was noticeable for me even if I was looking in the middle of the screen but now every detail distracts me. I have to turn my head to the right to find minimap between all these "useful information". If you are one of that terrible persons who play for KDA, well, that info is what you need to see any time. HP bars of your champions are made for Shen players but I have to idea how TF players feel now because they need to see the game and minimap all the time.

Lil Booler1 votes

"Experience bar: meh... its just inconspicuous for me"

are you fucking kidding me??? LMFAO your a loser.

Hánaz1 votes

Explain please

Lil Booler1 votes

this is simply just a complaint to COMPLAIN lmao

Lil Booler1 votes

"Also, too big space between my health bar and spell icons."

its literally... less than a quarter inch

ZephyrDrake1 votes

the main thing that annoys me is that as far as i know there is no way to know how much armor/mr pen you have, nor how much lifesteal/spellvamp you have nor how much crit chance you have. Sure you can do math and add all those stats but i don't want to do that, why should i even care what's the range of my character? that number tells me nothing useful. Other than that the new HUD is decent enough

The Queen Viper1 votes

Of course there is a way ... -.-

Click the "helmet" icon to make your basic stats permanent, and then press C.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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Of course there is a way ... -.-

Click the "helmet" icon to make your basic stats permanent, and then press C.

pressing the helmet only shows the basic stats and none of the ones i mentioned. Why the hell should i press C now when before all i needed was click on the portrait of my character and the info would appear, now i cannot do that for no reason whatsoever

The Queen Viper1 votes

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Why the hell should i press C now when before all i needed was click on the portrait of my character and the info would appear, now i cannot do that for no reason whatsoever

Why? Are you serious? The previous stat windows was almost the size of the old scoreboard... that's why. It was too massive and intrusive. Unlike now, everything is neatly compact and easy to find next to your character portrait.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

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Why? Are you serious? The previous stat windows was almost the size of the old scoreboard... that's why. It was too massive and intrusive. Unlike now, everything is neatly compact and easy to find next to your character portrait.

are you serious now? the basic stat window is not an issue, the fact that you cannot click on your portrait in order to actually your entire stat is the issue. The basic stats that you get from clicking on the helmet is too damn small too, unless you remember where everything is you will be confused as to where everything is since the icons of some of those are very similar but you can get pass that easily by remembering. How is something that you only used when you are either at base or going from point A to point B "massive and intrusive"? please tell me how clicking on the helmet is allowing me to see my armor/mr pen? my lifesteal/spellvamp? oh right it doesn't tell at all!

The Queen Viper1 votes

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the basic stat window is not an issue, the fact that you cannot click on your portrait in order to actually your entire stat is the issue.

You don't need to do that now... and even using basic math, people should figure out that 1 click is better than 2. Now you only need to press and hold C to get the additional info instead of the massive window which you also need to close.

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The basic stats that you get from clicking on the helmet is too damn small too,

Then make your hud bigger ... the hud and the stats themselves are already bigger than what they were in the old hud, just btw.

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please tell me how clicking on the helmet is allowing me to see my armor/mr pen? my lifesteal/spellvamp? oh right it doesn't tell at all!

Again, when you have clicked the helmet, you only need to press C to get the additional stats. Plain and simple.

Vistha Kai1 votes

KDA, CS and score is going to be moved back to the top right corner. Check last PBE update.

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