Ap bruisers DO exist, they're just not defined by their items the way AD bruiser are

Galeo··4 votes·4,483 views

With the recent outrage over Galio building AP and dealing significant amounts of damage people have been going on how Bruiser Galio will never work, stating how AP fighters just lack the tools to itemize for their play style. Ad bruisers can just get Trinity force, Black cleaver and titanic hydra and deal significant DPS because they can stack "free" damage without having to invest heavily into one offensive stat.

Yet this does not mean that Ap bruisers are doomed to fail as I strongly believe that a champion's niche is defined by their play style. AP Bruisers are basically just melee battlemages as they're mostly short/medium range damage threats and historically have just picked up one or two defensive AP items.

Diana Mordekaiser Rumble Galio are just the same as Swain Vladimir as they're all of the same vein, being sturdy AP damage threats.

The melee champions I listed go almost entirely FULL AP, with the exception of Mordekaiser who adds some hybrid items to his item pool and yet they're undeniably Bruisers as they thrive in scrappy fights and have to get into melee range to deal some of their damage. Do they have an AP black cleaver? Do they have a trinity force to add small chunks of dps to their combat pattern?

These champions build heavy AP and still function as fighters because a lot of their durability scales directly off AP. Be it shields, heals or damage reduction, it all scales off AP and when paired with some HP and resistances these champions become really durable despite usually building mostly offensive items.

Galio himself works as a bruiser, with builds like item 3027 item 3151 item 3135 item 3165 item 3102 giving him enough damage, survivability and CDR to fulfill his niche as a durable AP damage threat.

So, next time people say Galio building AP doesn't make him a bruiser think about all the other champions who share a niche with him.

~ A mildly annoyed Galio main

7 Comments

Erdamon2 votes

Rumble isn't even a bruiser though, right now trying to get in Flamespitter range against anyone ends in him getting completely raped by either getting massively outdamaged, not dealing any damage, or just getting peeled off with a a single slow.

Ahris1 votes

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Rumble isn't even a bruiser though, right now trying to get in Flamespitter range against anyone ends in him getting completely raped by either getting massively outdamaged, not dealing any damage, or just getting peeled off with a a single slow.

First time hearing Rumble getting massively outdamaged.

Erdamon2 votes

Well, on one side you have:

Late game Rumble dealing ~800 damage per each Flamespitter over 3 seconds

vs

Any late game adc dealing ~800 damage per each autoattack (instantly) every ~0.7 seconds

Ahris1 votes

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Well, on one side you have:

Late game Rumble dealing ~800 damage per each Flamespitter over 3 seconds

vs

Any late game adc dealing ~800 damage per each autoattack (instantly) every ~0.7 seconds

I don't think ADCs are balanced in anyway and I do think they should have a massively weaker lategame for how strong they are in the early, mid, and late game.

Rumble's damage is also AOE damage with extremely low cd. No mana costs either. You can't really compare the two.

Erdamon2 votes

Well, your regular adc isn't disarmed for 6 seconds after autoattacking too many times too quickly

Sujiren1 votes

I am pretty sure Singed, is what you would call an 'ap bruiser' or atleast originally was ment to be played as one.

DragonShea1 votes

ChogathRumble Mordekaiser Diana Singed are the only real AP bruisers in my books. The problem is that they are not really that well defined like AD champs are.

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