What do you guys think about creep block? Do you think it should be removed from the game?

LightningShado·12/20/2019, 11:32:34 PM·15 votes·9,295 views

Creep block kills lives. I genuinely believe it should be removed from the game.

38 Comments

Mystic Blue Fox12/21/2019, 1:29:15 AM10 votes

You raise a fair question.

I believe ultimately it is a necessary evil in the game to have minions, champions, and monsters block champion movement as a balance measure.

Despite my belief, I do feel it can be quite frustrating to experience unintended extremes where the interaction is clearly not working as intended. Champion models becoming trapped and unable to move due to movement skills or other means of movement seem to happen relatively commonly and can very well ruin an experience for players.

Tribbles Foxfolk12/21/2019, 2:50:00 AM8 votes

I think creep block is fine as a mechanic, I just wish it wasn't as borked as it is. I can't tell you how many times I've died because the creeps trapped me in an infinite loop or how many kills I've gotten because the enemy suffered the same unfortunate fate. This only really has been an issue with more modern seasons, after they made sweeping changes to the minion AI, pathing, and block hitboxes multiple seasons ago (I believe pre-season 5? Either 5 or 6, I think).

In the current state of the game, I would say disable it, but I also know that would break quite a few things (Fizz passive) and make ranged trading that much stronger (since you could dodge minion aggro by ducking into your own). I would prefer Riot to look into their changes to minion AI and pathing again, maybe even revert a few since they've just gotten worse and worse with each change.

Zane Zephyr12/21/2019, 6:41:00 AM6 votes

get rid of friendly creep block and i would be perfectly fine with that

FSRER12/21/2019, 9:01:59 AM6 votes

It should not be removed from the game, it should get fixed. When a game has a problem, you do not remove X that causes the problem, you try and fix the problem and if that is impossible then, as a final solution, you remove it. This is game developing 101

NaughtyWord12/21/2019, 2:46:07 AM5 votes

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Creep block kills lives. I genuinely believe it should be removed from the game.

The last thing I want is Mordekaiser Darius Nasus etc to not have to deal with creep block. Leave it as it is.

Don't want to deal with creep block? Play Kassadin or take summoner 6

Modl Ryden l12/21/2019, 1:50:35 AM4 votes

Maybe if the creeps didn't have such a wide collision radius.

To remove creep block would completely devalue 'Ghosting' perks since everyone will essentially 'Ghost' creep block.

Zyniya12/20/2019, 11:39:25 PM3 votes

Ya it's annoying when you die because of minions blocking you. But removing that would prob be too hard how is the game supposed to know you're blocked from creeps and THATS why your gonna die. They should be a bit easier to move imo they seem like they are made of cement xD

Makarakarn12/21/2019, 9:44:39 AM3 votes

I think collision should stay, but it needs to be completely re coded. The reason it's frustrating right now is because it's unclear and buggy as hell. When you get creep blocked, most of the time it makes zero sense. Things like getting completely stuck, getting very weird pathing, and losing fights for seemingly no reason are common occurrences because the system has yet to have a deep overhaul.

AZ Frost12/22/2019, 7:00:59 AM2 votes

Absolutely on the allied side..enemy side makes sense, but having YOUR OWN creeps block you is bullshit

Arammus12/22/2019, 8:29:48 AM2 votes

ofc it should be removed. fuck that shit. i remember the old jungle item that gave you this little spirit wolf as follower and clips of said wolf blocking its owner in a corner trapping them. the game is alrdy buggy enough, remove that shit

e46 Fanatic12/22/2019, 8:32:30 AM2 votes

It would be very hard to totally remove it as it simply is a big part of the game. BUT they could go fixing the bugs involved( which they haven't and never have )

if anyone cares to see just how fucked the creep block mechanic is, watch the 3 clips i have on this post (compare the 2 gragas clips, same vid just replayed and oddly enough the replay tool showed both side to it)

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/mYIcFLeQ-creep-block

LightswornLance12/21/2019, 3:32:58 AM2 votes

I think champions should be able to push minions out of the way. We can't just have everyone being ghosted because that causes several problems but I see nothing stopping them from letting us push minions out of the way minecraft style.

Great Ozymandius12/22/2019, 10:05:35 PM2 votes

Creep block is an important feature of the game, but there are some problems with implementation.

That should allow a type of movement where the champion takes a straight line towards the target; if creeps are in the way, the champion pushes the creeps out of the way but does so somewhat slowly.

Kendren112/21/2019, 6:49:51 PM2 votes

I believe it should be in the game if they could clean it up. But as it is its a glitchy mess, where there's no real way to know how your champ will react to the minions infront of them. I've had my champ get stuck on just a minion or two, and it pathed me back and forth instead of going around them like its suppose to. If they cant figure out how to program it into the game properly then it should be removed.

Celebrimborr12/22/2019, 5:25:51 AM1 votes

Kassadin Kassadin Kassadin Kassadin

IP Masquerena12/21/2019, 10:06:29 AM1 votes

Why not make it like Dota's creepblock where you can manipulate the wave's forward motion causing it to either change shape (by letting the casters get there faster) or simply take longer to get to it's intended destination causing a freeze from the start.

For good players it becomes another way to show skill expression in the form of wave manipulation.

blacknerdtaku12/22/2019, 5:02:39 AM1 votes

it's fine. It's buggy as hell.

I also think we should Add the ability to deny creeps in lol.

Śhunpo12/21/2019, 2:44:29 AM1 votes

Yes. Get it out...or give us DOTA levels of creep block so that we can use it as well!