is still broken as hell. His AP scaling isn't as good as before but he's still a pain to deal with if you're facing a decent summoner. Max AP scaling (for his ultimate iirc) without runes/masteries was 330. Now it's 300. Tbh I can't really see a huge difference in mid lane with his nerf. Also when is the 
patch coming
Blades of Navori1 votesVeigar is a major burst mage but he is extremely vulnerable. The best way to shut veigar down is avoid his stun and blast him as much as you can.
Abyss of Exiles1 votesVeigar is a major burst mage but he is extremely vulnerable. The best way to shut veigar down is avoid his stun and blast him as much as you can.
That's sort of hard for me to do. Especially when I use malzahar who is also very vulnerable. I can't really go ham until I get 
. Otherwise he can just dodge my q+e spam, and I'll be left without mana.
Blades of Navori1 votesIf veigar is dodging your spam you need to take better shots.
Rush the Moroninono thing and then go for Arch Angel's staff. I don't know much about him so I don't know about building after that but out burst him
Very Hard Engage1 votes[{quoted}](name=Abyss of Exiles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wFHNiqI1,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-10-30T13:09:42.680+0000)
That's sort of hard for me to do. Especially when I use malzahar who is also very vulnerable. I can't really go ham until I get
if you lose as malzahar to a veigar............
grail if you need it.
couldn't you just press R and kill him with that build? in addition to having wayyyy more than enough HP to take his full burst?
or ya know... just press R.
Baughwssery1 votesI don't have a clue what you are talking about, literally. A max AP scaling on his ult? What? Scaling isn't as good as before? If you're talking about the specific ratio changes then you're very wrong, and you need to look at the patch notes, or just play him and compare old to new values; his base values were nerfed (-30 base damage on Q at rank 5 AND -20 base damage on W at rank 5).