Attack Damage Carries

Hunter Harpster··2 votes·856 views

why are adcs so completely useless, it use to be such a fun role full of outplays, now it feels like a tank can buld straight tanky items(frozen heart etc.) and still outdamage an adc. by the time i hit 3 items for an adc a tank or assasin has a full build even if the adc is carrying with a 5/0 lead, and the tank is 0/3 or assasin. the price of adc items are way to high, a support ap does more damage in general of the whole game then the adc will in the first 45 minutes of a game (in almost) every circumstance. it feels like the adc role itself has been gutted and is making me not enjoy the game itself. my question is in all this is that will the adc's ever come back into being attack damage carries or will the game continue how it is in the future?

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Malak1 votes

yea..no ADCs are still broken

and now no one can convince me otherwise because I started playing the role myself and have first-hand experience playing as the broken role.

ADC is busted so I'm afraid you'll just have to get better to use it's power.

JackMcSnipeyz1 votes

They are not useless, they are fine with some outliners to either side (OP or UP) like any other class.

EyesOfTheFox1 votes

I couldn't agree more. Riot removed the ability for marksmen to solo carry and that in turn allowed EVERY non marksmen to be able to solo carry without any repercussions. Riot's excuse that marksmen are fine is that people are still playing them, however they do not take into consideration that marksmen players WANT to play marksmen (whether that's good for our mental health or not at this point in the game is a different story).

Riot fucked marksmen and they know it.

In 8.11+ Riot nerfed all marksmen base stats into the ground. Including but not limited to: Base AD, Base Health, Base Health Regen.

Their goal was to get non marksmen botlane. However instead of buffing or reworking non marksmen champions to get them in a place to compete bot, they just decided to make marksmen solely reliant on whether or not the team around them can protect them.

There are a few outliers MF (strong af ever since lethality was introduced), Kai'sa (Magic damage OP), Jhin (can one shot you with one auto, Stormrazor, and Darkharvest). All other marksmen rely on their support or the rest of their team to be able to be in a position to carry. 10 minutes into the game if neither bot lane has gotten a significant lead or advantage, chances are they never will as most of the time an enemy laner already has 3-4 kills and is shitting on their opponent. Once that point in the game is reached if a marksman hasn't reached 3 items before their assassin or tank or mage or jungler or top or mid has 1 item, it's over for that marksman because they will be useless as they will not be able to outlive the damage that one fed enemy does to the rest of the team.

If a marksman does get fed it's great. But if any champion gets fed it's great so that line of thinking directed at marksmen only is narrow minded.

Riot removed the ability for marksmen to solo carry early game because they honestly DON'T want marksmen to solo carry. This feels especially bad as a solo q player as just 1 mistake in lane can basically **** me for the rest of the game.

People are complaining about damage being too high, yet most of that damage is coming from non marksmen sources. How many times in a game do you flame your bot lane? Maybe they are having a rough go because they need you to not be a complete idiot to be able to survive long enough to reach their three item spike 15 minutes into the game.

My advice for marksmen players: If you are in q, and the enemy team has 3 high damage tanks, and everyone on your team picks a squishy assassin, dodge that shit (or pray your support is a god), because your team WILL die before any damage can be done to their team, your team will not peel for you and they will flame you when they die trying to 1v2/3/4/5 and then ask why you aren't following them to their death into an enemy jungle with no vision when you went even in lane and they fed their assess off. They will not push waves. They will chase. They will not protect you. If you do get fed, they will not listen to your calls, they will not know how to close the game, they will drag you down with them. Sitting under your tower will lose you cs, it will get you dove on, it will lose your tower, you will fail regardless even if you don't die your tower will be gone, the enemy will have more gold you will be useless. Your team will not protect you if you are farming a side wave on your side of the map to try to catch up in gold and push the wave. They will farm the jungle instead of pushing the waves. They will not help you. Log out. Go play Fortnite.

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