Darius hooks doesn't grab any1 who uses some kind of dash or escape even after the hook landed.

N7Eragon··1 votes·1,108 views

Hi I am a darius main, hence the complaints. I am not talking about the ook that grabs that is farther from its actual range. I am talking about hooks that should grab within it's actual range no matter what. If a player misjudges that a hook is not going to land on him and still gets hooked by , blitz, threh, nautilus etc. they can't use their escape abilities at the time of animation, even flash. But as Darius ezreal blinks away AFTER mind you, getting hooked or mid hook. I man not only he is ranged, has slow on his every aa, now he can ignore darius hooks too.

Not only ezreal , renekton's slice, tryndamere's escape, Caitlyn, Lucian, graves,shyvana's ult,jarvans, gnar and even thresh lantern! they all just dash away after getting hooked, which is highly irritating as a darius main.

pre darius can atleast grab some1 off thresh lantern if he timed it right and I am NOT talking about getting hooked from outside his pull range. Now never has he grabbed any1 from thresh lantern ever. Some times I position darius between the lanter and thresh and hooked people off mid flight if I aimed it properly and timed it, but not anymore! How about nautilus hooks which he uses it to escapes after cc'd? like even a blitz hook wont be able to stop that guy. And like nautilus darius cant hook any1 even after he landed the hook like on syndra and lee at which point if they use their kick or scatter/ throw back cc, Darius hook just cancels itself. I mean if the player is good he can just do that b4 a darius gets close enough right? every other champ can use their escape abilities b4 darius can get even close enough. so why the weak hook? ( not complaining about the long hook mind you) Riot pls fix this and thx, cos he has already the shortest hook in the game with no form of mobility.

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Tychusfindlay9192 votes

No the hook was fixed. They probably dashed before the animation was completed. I USED to have this issue but not anymore after the recent patches that fixed it and made his E more reliable.

N7Eragon1 votes

hi, sorry it's still not fixed. I play darius every day and he still can't grab ezreal, shyvana, yi and the likes during their escapes. Yi's invisible dash can be activated again during darius is pulling him, not b4 or after, during.

And this animation not being completed is what I am complaining about too, because it's an unfair advantage, No1 else's hooks if lands like thresh, blitz and nautilus can the other player use their abilities to escape, then why darius?

like if darius is cc'd by ryze or lux and they r in his range of dunking, he can't. then why every other champ can escape his pulls by using their escape during his pull? Maokai's gap closing root can hop, follow over flash, or any other champs cc can stop other players escape during that if it lands. I am not saying that it is a bug. it is not. It is however how the side effect of their change to his outside his range "unintended" pull is working. I am saying there is this unintended factor again only it's not pulling any1 who can escape during it's animation. The game has 4 pulls or hooks and darius hook despite being the shortest, with no form of extra mobility champ, who cant get kited like some1 who takes free hits forever can now.....has a hook which can apparently be escaped from during it's animation? Why o why? Ezreal is a strong enough champ already, with very high poke and range and damage, his 1 q will take off atleast 20% health even 50 % if its on a carry. He even has a slow on every second, not a weak slow but a strong and big slow, yet he can escape during darius pull and not any1 else's hook? He can get cc'd and not have the ability to use his arcane shift but he can however during darius e? So goes for every1 else, Shyvana, tankiest, most damage dealer, heavy burst, high mobility and sustain, can just stomp on darius and now he cant pull her ult? inside his even short range? like when this stuff happens on his apprehend pull every darius main secretly cries inside. It is almost like ever1 knows they can harass him to death now they want him to blow everything off, flash ghost and to hook them only then to escape during his hook, who now has no escape and kill darius. This is just unfair on darius, especially on darius, who has no extra mobility, not even the bleed mobility anymore, who has less damage on every single 1 of his ability unless his 5 stacks, to compensate. who was fast and could counter jax b4 now all he does is feed every jax in every game. now when he does get ganked and he flash pulls? guess what? the other guy escapes...... not during darius flash....DURING HIS FUCKING PULL. how is this fair?

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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hi, sorry it's still not fixed. I play darius every day and he still can't grab ezreal, shyvana, yi and the likes during their escapes. Yi's invisible dash can be activated again during darius is pulling him, not b4 or after, during.

And this animation not being completed is what I am complaining about too, because it's an unfair advantage, No1 else's hooks if lands like thresh, blitz and nautilus can the other player use their abilities to escape, then why darius?

like if darius is cc'd by ryze or lux and they r in his range of dunking, he can't. then why every other champ can escape his pulls by using their escape during his pull? Maokai's gap closing root can hop, follow over flash, or any other champs cc can stop other players escape during that if it lands. I am not saying that it is a bug. it is not. It is however how the side effect of their change to his outside his range "unintended" pull is working. I am saying there is this unintended factor again only it's not pulling any1 who can escape during it's animation. The game has 4 pulls or hooks and darius hook despite being the shortest, with no form of extra mobility champ, who cant get kited like some1 who takes free hits forever can now.....has a hook which can apparently be escaped from during it's animation? Why o why? Ezreal is a strong enough champ already, with very high poke and range and damage, his 1 q will take off atleast 20% health even 50 % if its on a carry. He even has a slow on every second, not a weak slow a big strong slow. Why can he now escape during darius pull now? why not b4 or after? So goes for every1 else, Shyvana, tankiest, most damage dealer, heavy burst, high mobility and sustain, can just stomp on darius and now he cant pull her ult? inside his even short range? like when this stuff happens on his apprehend pull every darius main secretly cries inside. It is almost like ever1 knows they can harass him to death now they want him to blow everything off, flash ghost and to hook them only then to escape during his hook, who now has no escape and kill darius.

Ezreal is not a dash, it's a blink. The hook shouldnt catch him if he blinks out even mid pull.

Shyvana does get pulled, I tested this out myself and her dragon escape gets interrupted by apprehend.

Master yi is also a blink and so apprehend should not get him.

N7Eragon1 votes

Thanks for confirming the shyvana ult pull. I will take ur word for it. and about ezreal and yi, we all know the escape abilities but sometimes we just don't know their ability names. anyway it is just my opinion again and not complaining about a bug, that is they shouldn't be able to use those when they r getting dragged back from darius e to escape, because they can't use those when getting cc'd or pulled from other champions, just darius. I know it's a blink, lol, and they should not be able to use those at that time cos its just not fair! Sure they can use it pre hook, after hook, or fuck it even during HOOK, just not when they r already in the way of getting dragged back! That's all I was saying, not a bug, but a report to his change of his previous hook to now which has a bit of an extra downside/ weakside? thx.

Sightless662 votes

They absolutely can blink while getting pulled by other champions. Have you ever seen a blitzcrank pull an ezreal, only for the ezreal to start a queued up blink after the hook hits and end up back in safety? Same principle here. Happens with Naut and Thresh hook too. It works this way with most displacements if he can time it right.

N7Eragon1 votes

and here I thought that was a bug, dump. sorry.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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Thanks for confirming the shyvana ult pull. I will take ur word for it. and about ezreal and yi, we all know the escape abilities but sometimes we just don't know their ability names. anyway it is just my opinion again and not complaining about a bug, that is they shouldn't be able to use those when they r getting dragged back from darius e to escape, because they can't use those when getting cc'd or pulled from other champions, just darius. I know it's a blink, lol, and they should not be able to use those at that time cos its just not fair! Sure they can use it pre hook, after hook, or fuck it even during HOOK, just not when they r already in the way of getting dragged back! That's all I was saying, not a bug, but a report to his change of his previous hook to now which has a bit of an extra downside/ weakside? thx.

That's false. Ezreal can and has used his blink many times against me as a blitzcrank or thresh. Ezreal's blink has a small animation time that cannot be interrupted (it's not channeled but has a channel time so to speak). If you have ever pulled Ezreal mid blink animation as thresh or crank you would see that your arm extends to where he blinked but he would not be pulled.

Master Yi doesn't have an animation time, it's instant. If he gets caught by a hook (including apprehend) then he cannot activate his alpha strike. If he activates alpha strike during hook animation then yes he will dodge it. He cannot use it during hook, I tested this.

warpenguin5551 votes

again? I thought they fixed that

Silly Neeko1 votes

Weeelllllll....... with for example Ezreal and Tristana, Nautilus, and some others with a time delay before the actual action, if they time it correctly they can hop during hard CC..... blitzcrank pulls... nautilus pulls... malzahar suppress/silence.... pretty much everything they want to. Unfortunately since it is not a channel, it does not stop when cced by stuns, silence, suppress, etc. Yes that does include Darius pull as well.

As for others, that is likely a bug/glitch, might try it in the "report a bug". With possible video of it happening?

N7Eragon1 votes

What I meant was suppose lee kick off at nautilus and at the same time nautilus hooks lee . Nautilus will go back then come back to lee again cos he hooked him. like evevn a blitz pull on nautilus wont be able to stop nautilus from escaping. this is what i asked of riot, it's not a bug I am reporting to be clear, it's just that his hook is not as effective even when he does land the hook cos apparently they all can escape during that time. any cc a champ uses on others makes them not able to perform any other action except gangplanks remove scurvy? like a darius can't ult if he is cc'd and in range ofcourse, like roots, not stuns or knockups, jusrt like lux or ryze binds. so why can other champs can use their abilities to escape when darius cc them by using his hook? an ezreal can escape by heal, flash, or arcane shift AFTER or BEFORE darius hooks him not during. I get that they can hop during hard cc, but it's unfair just like darius pre pull. Ezreal is an amazing champ already, huge rang and poke with huge slows. like very consistent big slows, why should he have this too? riot says they didn't meant for darius hook to grab outside his range so they change it, the least they could do is to stop giving champs to escape while cc'd? it is only fair then. and also speaking about hooks, that hop during cc? I saw it only happen with darius pull, not thresh, blitz, naut, their hook if lands on any champs it goes off no matter what unless its mercury scimitar and the likes. even other champs gap closers? can hop over escapes, like maokais bind? he can hop outside of his range if the other champ uses his escape, even his flash.

Eedat1 votes

Really? I'v experienced the exact opposite.

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