RYZE E TRAVEL SPEED

Syte·9/8/2019, 7:52:51 PM·73 votes·18,173 views

If I E->W, I expect an EW (SNARE), not a WE (30% SLOW).

https://clips.twitch.tv/TangentialSpikyClintAMPEnergy

If I E->Q I expect an EQ (EMPOWERED Q) not a QE (SETUP FOR W).

https://clips.twitch.tv/CourageousAlluringPorcupineShadyLulu

I can't even begin to explain how many times this has completely fucked me over, whether it means clearing a wave or a camp, or flash EW-ing somebody at 150 HP. This has single-handedly ruined games for me and it makes no sense why E travels so slowly.

FIX: Make E travel faster initially Make E spread instant

60 Comments

Zlera9/8/2019, 8:15:09 PM32 votes

Oh yeah, for sure, I agree. If you cast the E first, it should hit first. I hate ryze as much as the next guy, but when something isnt fair I call it out.

Guyen9/8/2019, 7:56:24 PM25 votes

I don't main Ryze but I'ma have to agree

Sucction9/8/2019, 9:17:07 PM11 votes

Syndra has a similar issue with WE combo

Syte Fries9/8/2019, 7:56:02 PM9 votes

please fix this

Marshbouy9/8/2019, 11:10:49 PM6 votes

I am not defending riot at all or saying that this is good, but it is possible that riot intended this outcome.

One of ryze's problem mechanics in the past was his instant EW 2 second snare, so they may have removed it completely.

FrancisMuni9/9/2019, 8:14:49 AM5 votes

Or you can time it a bit. Both those abilities are point-and-click. They are baby easy to use. I think it isn't a lot to wait a milisecond so the E projectile hits the enemy before using the W. It isn't even a bug, the E is a ball that has to travel from your champ to the enemy, while the W is instant. It's obvious that it you use them so simultaneously that's going to happen.

Clone Is Friend9/9/2019, 11:10:00 AM5 votes

or how about you wait like everybody else. you are not supposed to hit your keyboard as hard as possible. smh ryze mains

Jennifer4209/10/2019, 11:52:28 AM2 votes

oh no... this is enough reason for riot to rework him again.

Summoner SpeII9/10/2019, 12:01:27 AM2 votes

that is an intended form of counterplay, because the old instant cast w was completely broken and made ryze completely unfair to play against as well as broken in pro scene

Jinzo Torrance9/10/2019, 8:29:15 AM2 votes

How can Ryze main even play this champ? Riot keeps nerfing him

NelsieLisnen9/9/2019, 4:58:27 PM1 votes

To hell with that. Just MAKE IT INSTANT STOP TORTURING US.

Eonslegacy9/9/2019, 10:42:54 PM1 votes

This specific interaction looks completely intended by riot as counterplay. The fact is, talon was running away from the E projectile, then he flashed BEFORE E hit adding even more distance, however, ryze had already used the W before the E hits. This is the intended counterplay to ryze. His E w combo is coded to work everytime at max range, this was well beyond his max ew range, and as such the projectile speed was not fast enough. The problem is they dont tell you the speed E travels at anywhere, so you cant know the range the E is out paced by the W. My guess is its around 800 units or so. Talon used his Flash to escape the combo, its that simple. Riot intended this. This is more a buff ryze could receive if he was weak not something inherently wrong in his kit. This occurs when the enemy travels a certain distance away from ryze during the cast/travel time, flashes dashes and blinks and insane movespeed buffs.

SirTauntsALot9/9/2019, 5:33:36 AM1 votes

Is this an actual bug? I thought i was just bad? this happens almost every game to me.. Riot should fix it.