Zac Revert is bad and so are the people who wanted it.

Løku·May 31, 2019·8 votes·1,554 views

Zac players with over 50 games played have on average 53% win rate.
You allowed low elo or low win rate players who are bad at Zac to affect the game, this is unacceptable.
This new ult is basically useless compared to the OP kidnap ult.
Zac is a CC tank, you dont see people complaining that Zed doesnt have CC because hes an assassin.

Unless you have something real to say dont even bother commenting. People who pushed for this revert are apart of a real problem in league.

12 Comments

FireDrizzleMay 31, 20194 votes

Zac used too require you could play him before the rework, now you just land near someone too blow their flash(because Q).
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The current ult is more reliable and much more fun.
Old Zac was more fun with the higher damage but less reliable ganks. If everything blows up quickly a tank needs damage or disgusting amounts of cc like a Naut or Thresh.

"People who pushed for this revert are apart of a real problem in league." No the rework was pointless, Zac was balanced for ages and one of the most fun too play and play against.

TheCreator47Jun 2, 20194 votes

I find the revert bad myself. Bouncing 4 times is fun, but it doesn't really offer a lot compared to the reworked R. If you are cc'd during your first bounce your ult becomes entirely useless. With the rework ult I had so many options of what I could do with it.

Set up a combo with yasuo, orianna etc.
Take them away from objectives and my teammates.
Keep them stationary in one spot.
Take them towards my turret, which I've done a lot and it's ended with my team getting a kill or 2.
I can do a quick bounce just to instantly interrupt fiddlestick from doing his ultimate just to name one.
Even escape over a wall if I don't have flash.

This 4 bounce R does damage and a quick knock up that happens once. That's my thoughts really.

MarcReadyJun 2, 20194 votes

I agree, the revert was a mistake. People pushed this revert because they couldn't learn how to use the new ultimate. The new ultimate (now trashed away) was more thematically fitting and required more thought and skill to use. It was satisfying to land, but it wasn't op, for it could also back-fire. The old one is so boring and requires no tactical use at all, just mindlessly activate it for r%%%%%ed disruption

MavëríckJun 2, 20191 votes

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I agree, the revert was a mistake. People pushed this revert because they couldn't learn how to use the new ultimate. The new ultimate (now trashed away) was more thematically fitting and required more thought and skill to use. It was satisfying to land, but it wasn't op, for it could also back-fire. The old one is so boring and requires no tactical use at all, just mindlessly activate it for r%%%%%ed disruption

It's unreliable too! Plus the damage is a joke.

LøkuMay 31, 20193 votes

If people are dodging your E you are probably not engaging correctly as you dont always intiate with your E or intiate to begin with. My main point remains.

Win rates were healthy
Has strong pro play.
HAD one of the strongest ults in the game.

You complainers reverted one of the best ults because it "was not fun" or because it was "too hard to use" like come on really...

FireDrizzleMay 31, 20192 votes

"If people are dodging your E you are probably not engaging correctly as you dont always intiate with your E or intiate to begin with. My main point remains." I'm saying he is rewarded for missing e with the q rework but used too rely on landing it. This reading comprehension is killing me.

LøkuMay 31, 20192 votes

Otherwise your saying landing near someone to blow a flash is bad? Because its not, thats how you gank you try to land on them and if they blow flash thats a good thing... You are saying the current ult is more reliable? Absolutely not. Maybe you cant land E so you might believe that. Being slowed or CC'd during this "revert ult" basically stops your ult and on another note what does Q have to do with the ult revert?

FireDrizzleMay 31, 20192 votes

Otherwise your saying landing near someone to blow a flash is bad?

If you dodged old Zac's e you didnt need too flash usually because his q was just a slow.

Being slowed or CC'd during this "revert ult" basically stops your ult and on another note what does Q have to do with the ult revert?

Only if it is a really strong slow and you should be using ult when you have backup that will make use of cc being cast on you. I mentioned the Q because the rework was bad and should be reverted except for the E cc depending on charge time.

LøkuMay 31, 20191 votes

So your point is I want zac revert cause its fun.

ooshawnMay 31, 20191 votes

agreed

LøkuMay 31, 20191 votes

You mentioned having Zac's E dodged... Congratz you still have no point and the Zac revert is terrible.

KicktheDoorJun 2, 20191 votes

Just came here to comment that the new ultimate feels like garbage. I ganked bot lane while they were pushing tower, and thought I could ult them behind our tower, but NOPE I just knocked them up briefly and they flashed to safety. Who the hell are these changes supposed to help? No one even plays this champ and you removed the only thing that made a difference.