Maokai rito plz

Sweaty Korean··9 votes·7,482 views

Sorry for the language Google tries as best it can. I like trees, I love these living trees from the lord of the rings. Be patient, I'll write a lot of words now. That's why I play on maokai that would not happen. The less attention this text gets, the more it proves that I am right and nobody needs a maokai! Maokai so usless ,so many champs can do more control and so much more dmg , nobody main this champ , i try but im diamond thats so hard bcz team cry every time - dont pick maokai this champions is garbage ,and they are right maokai is garbage but im play on this champ bcz i like him not more. No one cares about tanks, including Maokai, namely, tanko meta means step-by-step battles with competent ability to distribute their forces and ability to control the situation, and now all the meta naprvalena to explosive damage qwerqweqwrqwerqerqerqe. When maokai have old r he can really help your team but now r usless r in the game if i ever know, maybe I'm the only person who plays maokai all the time, and I have to watch him become more useless and useless. There are two ways, either you are revolting Maokaya, or you are trying to fix it then it has turned into a dry and lifeless pod. In principle, I don’t really want the maokai to do much damage, but it’s really worth raising a little, and more control is needed, because once this tree and it has ground, let the enemies get entangled in the roots for a long time, otherwise every second person has talent 30% of stability and maokai loses a lot of control only at the expense of one rune, the nerf of this rune most likely will give almost nothing. For it affects everyone who uses this rune and we need to change only one champion. Let's go over his abilities, because I play on him I always know all the nerfs that he had. During the first period, passive passages at the first levels are slightly reduced, and we are talking about a very small amount of health that the maokai does not make up for right from the very beginning, because his passive scores the stronger his health. But there’s not much health, so we’re talking about 10 -15 health per hit. And since now all the meta is super aggresive, then Maokai will be just a little easier on the top. And one more thing for some reason, then at Maokai, an auto attack is dropped when the passive becomes ready at the time of an ordinary auto attack. For many champions this bug was removed, I remember it happened to Nun and it was removed, but for some reason Maokai is not removed. His Q is very good, and I am pleased with this ability, the only thing is to increase the deceleration time to two seconds. His W has a lot of useful for control, but it is absolutely useless for causing damage, and for some reason it was done in such a way that in order to extend the control time you need to study this ability many times. I suggest that from the first pumping his W give 1.5 seconds of control. And this ability will be studied last. Since the damage she has is so small that to study it many times is just silly, but you have to do it for the sake of control. Notice, I haven't increased the damage in the least, although I don’t mind it because the orginal number of tanks has a lot more damage. Nasus orn even gragas and sedzhuani cause more. His E is a very curious ability, but unfortunately it is incredibly ineffective when used not in the bushes. Here you can do it in different ways, for example, to begin to increase the speed of the sapling movement, which for some reason was underestimated, return at least one unit of damage from landing the seedling, it was a very cool feature when you could reach the enemy by not letting him return to the base by knocking down teleport It was really cool =) I do not understand why they remove these small and useful features. You can still do more normal damage, not interest. Sapling is really useless without bushes. 25 damage 252525252525 hello is that ok? Now its R, if you want to leave that ult which is now, then you need to make sure that when the maokai ult at point-blank, at least for a second, it will undo for 3 seconds, and at the very end for 3 seconds and still need to make the ulta wider by about 1 root to the right and left. And also the most important thing is to increase the speed of the ults, otherwise everyone knows that it is easier to get away from her if you run to the spike. But ideally, return it to the old R. When it was possible to understate all damage by 20 percent in a certain area for 10 seconds. This is a very useful sang for the whole team. I brought only some changes that can be made, I am sure even if you make them all maokai will not become super popular, it will simply become a good tank with good control, we hardly touch it, it is still useless, but not so much. I hope you didn’t think that this is another person who does not understand anything in the balance, who whines about the fact that he can’t raise Elo. in the best form, I took the diamond precisely because of the scuff, and not the maokai, since the maokai is now considered an auto lost, but I really want it to not be forgotten about him. Experiment, or do something of your own with this champion, for example, on E you can do so in some highlighted points on the map you can throw a sapling and in a few seconds there grow forest plants, well, that is, cones that repel either honey fruits or grown which shines through the floor of the card =), or something else special that I did not invent. In general, I hope I inspired you to create something good with this champion.

24 Comments

SweedishGunner10 votes

You need some spacing and paragraphs otherwise it's really hard to read.

Alzon4 votes

Maokai was reworked because he was THE tank for top lane, especially in pro play. He was just better than all other top lane tanks in every way, in every situation.

Now he is weak, since he can no longer fight common top laners in order to farm, and he is rather gold-dependent. He isn’t like Poppy or Sion or Singed or Cho’Gath, who can all put up a fight in lane. He isn’t like Malphite, who only needs to be able to press R and doesn’t need gold. He isn’t like Nautilus, who can build AP but is otherwise in a similar state. He isn’t like Ornn, who can just sit back and get EXP until he upgrades his items. He isn’t like Galio, who can waveclear at a safe distance despite also being very weak. Maokai is an in-your-face tank, and when he withers in the face of most other top lane champions, he’s useless.

Starboy X2 votes

First of all paragraphs second of all maokai Isn’t even underpowered

Sweaty Korean1 votes

meow =)

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Maokai is underwhelming right now because there aren't a lot of short range AP he can peel in the meta right now and his counter engage isn't so valuable.

There aren't a lot of champions right now either, that benefit from his burst in skirmishes or teamfights to set up lethal.

The champion himself is good, but the meta isn't a nice place for him right now.

He will become an excellent champion, without any direct changes as the game changes around him.

He is also playable in top, jungle and support in your mmr and if i'm honest, you could play him adc/mid too. So what's the problem?

Ragnaveil3 votes

His durability is trash. They heavily nerfed the base on his healing when the tank meta was around, and now that nerf in this damage meta (combined with the lack of tank-centered runes that actually make a difference) is showing its age. They need to revert that nerf for him and make font of life be able to heal the person who applied it. If defensive stats wont get buffed for tanks, then they need some type of sustain to keep them going.

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His durability is trash. They heavily nerfed the base on his healing when the tank meta was around, and now that nerf in this damage meta (combined with the lack of tank-centered runes that actually make a difference) is showing its age. They need to revert that nerf for him and make font of life be able to heal the person who applied it. If defensive stats wont get buffed for tanks, then they need some type of sustain to keep them going.

His durability is trash at certain points in the game, and it might be beyond the scope of a simple forum post but Maokai has good power spikes and can tank effectively / synergize well with teams who are also strong at the same checkpoints. Sorry but maokai is a really strong champion right now and has a good kit.

Ragnaveil2 votes

Idk, last I tried playing him in a comp that works with him, I couldn't with full build soak damage for more than 2 seconds.

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Idk, last I tried playing him in a comp that works with him, I couldn't with full build soak damage for more than 2 seconds.

Lol, and what type of comp do you think works with maokai and what do you think their victory condition is?

This is gonna be good.

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Ragnaveil2 votes

Nothing does. Thats the thing. His weaknesses hella overshadow anything he could do.

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Nothing does. Thats the thing. His weaknesses hella overshadow anything he could do.

You claimed you played him in a team that works and now that nothing works?

Clearly you were lying about playing him with such a team to try to impress me and validate yourself.

I don't think you actually want to learn about maokai and why he is so good right now.

Then again, at your level, champions are just flavor choices so maybe it doesn't matter much!

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Ragnaveil2 votes

Never said this season. Once 8.11 rolled out, top tanks were on their way out. Theres honestly nothing you can say thats gonna convince me hes good, but feel free.

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Never said this season. Once 8.11 rolled out, top tanks were on their way out. Theres honestly nothing you can say thats gonna convince me hes good, but feel free.

My job is to mention the conventional knowledge, not to teach it to you.

There's a major difference, you aren't paying me anything to take on what would be the role of a coach, and you aren't interested in having what would be the role of a coach NOR are you looking to learn and improve.

You can backpedal with your 8.11 talk but truth is, maokai was fine then through now, just not desirable in what is a very unfavorable meta for him. He's still a first rate champion whether you want him to be or not and , tbh, your chances of figuring that out for yourself aren't exactly sky high

Sweaty Korean1 votes

I dont know how much time you play in ths game ,but serious maokai now is not good ,he can did control but sometimes maokai so usless ,in teamfights enemy team ignore him ,ignore his damage ,it is useful when the team wins, but when the team lags behind, it almost does not affect anything, because they simply ignore it until they kill all the cary in your team, and then it is simply being cut for the company as woodcutters =) Even when a team wins, the question arises, and what is Maakai’s merit, of course, there is no doubt that much depends on him, he is the king of initiation - a flash ult combination, but unfortunately I often understand that if I had a different champion stronger, would be able to influence the game much more even if we already win.

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I dont know how much time you play in ths game ,but serious maokai now is not good ,he can did control but sometimes maokai so usless ,in teamfights enemy team ignore him ,ignore his damage ,it is useful when the team wins, but when the team lags behind, it almost does not affect anything, because they simply ignore it until they kill all the cary in your team, and then it is simply being cut for the company as woodcutters =) Even when a team wins, the question arises, and what is Maakai’s merit, of course, there is no doubt that much depends on him, he is the king of initiation - a flash ult combination, but unfortunately I often understand that if I had a different champion stronger, would be able to influence the game much more even if we already win.

Maokai is fine right now, his problems aren't with himself but instead with the game around him not really playing into what he wants to do.

You don't really understand how scary maokai can be when ahead, how much peel he has, how much initiation and counter initiation he has and how quick his power spikes and itemization are.

It's a really nice kit, and at your level, you could make him super work.

You say he's useless, but if I were to log onto your account, from NA and play your ranked games in 140 ping i'd be able to boost you with a 70% winrate or better for multiple leagues, as maokai, without leveling any of my basic abilities past rank 3 for the duration of the game.

If I could make him work with such a handicap, you should be able to make him work with practice and effort.

Sweaty Korean1 votes

70% win rate ///../............ wow //.../. I do not know in which universe you live, but obviously not in this one, it doesn’t matter how much you play this game, whether you are the admin (or I noticed that you’re a gag in every post), but in general and in general you’re In principle, you do not know the game from the word, it’s like people who have created something, but they don’t understand how it should work or how it works at a given time. Please do not write anything else here, there is no point in you, you just fit into each post using your "super" knowledge about this game.

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70% win rate ///../............ wow //.../. I do not know in which universe you live, but obviously not in this one, it doesn’t matter how much you play this game, whether you are the admin (or I noticed that you’re a gag in every post), but in general and in general you’re In principle, you do not know the game from the word, it’s like people who have created something, but they don’t understand how it should work or how it works at a given time. Please do not write anything else here, there is no point in you, you just fit into each post using your "super" knowledge about this game.

In other words you have no argument against anything I said and had to try to use adhominems instead.

Listen, I don't know what happened in your last game to upset you but it's not my problem.

And take your time when you flame someone so that you can sling mud instead of posting word salads.

Sweaty Korean1 votes

so you didn’t say anything, just came up with a winrate, and said that you could pull the games, and all the others just have to play harder, divine, okay, it’s quiet here in the forest, so this is the end

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so you didn’t say anything, just came up with a winrate, and said that you could pull the games, and all the others just have to play harder, divine, okay, it’s quiet here in the forest, so this is the end

A Month later and Maokai is still S+. Sounds like all that salt didn't do much against raw, hard facts (: Oof!

Sweaty Korean1 votes

Yes i play on maokai sometimes on top or jung, but we can wait so much years when meta take a course on tanks =(

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Yes i play on maokai sometimes on top or jung, but we can wait so much years when meta take a course on tanks =(

The cap on maokai's durability scaling isn't as high as the scaling on popular tanks now.

Also, even top teams aren't manipulating waves and synchronizing well right now, so teams are getting a LOT more gold than they have to.

Also, Maokai's 2v2 and 3v3 isn't great right now and doesn't line up with the spikes of current power picks.

He will be much stronger when games are decided earlier, when less gold is being pushed on the other team, into peelable ap that builds flat hp.

and that might not take too long at all.

And for solo queue, there's no reason maokai can't be played all the way into high end challenger.

He's no harder to justify than elise is right now and Rehope isn't exactly belly up right now.

Sweaty Korean1 votes

mmmmm I feel like an idiot, =) but oh well maybe someone other than me will read it. I wonder who else needs this champion besides me?

Toxic Teeto1 votes

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