Ranged abusers shouldn't be allowed top

Top Laner·Nov 27, 2018·6 votes·1,514 views

Why are champions like Heimer, teemo, Liss, Kayle, Karthus, Quinn and Viktor allowed to dominate the winrates top for so long. For some reason it seems like Riot just hates bruisers, it's so dumb that these champions are allowed to be picked and you just can't even lane properly. Back when the game was good Bruisers used to be able to get a lead in lane and then transition to a split push to make up for their lack of teamfighting, but for some reason Riot hates bruisers.

Either you are forced onto a tank to deal with the ranged abusers or you have to play a ranged abuser yourself. Why should I have to play Sion or Maokai just to deal with the harass that these champions can put out and hug tower for 20 minutes having negative fun going against a ranged abuser like Kennen. It's been like this since S5, because for some reason bruisers just arn't allowed to have fun in the game anymore. Every single patch it's either Jayce, Kennen, Quinn or some other busted pick like Viktor that just bully you and don't let you play unless you choose a tank or just make it midlane where you also go a ranged abuser.

Over half of the highest winrate champions are ranged abusers top. Honestly theres a really good chance you either gho against a tank or a ranged abuser when you queue for the role and you just relegate yourself to a coinflip praying your team has half a brain, because the person playing the ranged abuser sure doesn't because they just auto win the lane for being ranged.

Riot needs to add a penalty toplane where ranged champions get -30 AD, -100 AP(Because mages are digusting), -100 movespeed, and -500 hp. The game would be fair to bruisers and let us actually have fun. Do you think that tank viktor top is some super fun champion to warrant one of the highest pickrates top? No he's just op and disgusting.

Riot needs to fix the game and balance it because right now it's terrible that these champions are allowed to be in the game.

28 Comments

wolf jadeNov 27, 20188 votes

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DuskDaUmbreonNov 27, 20187 votes

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wolf jadeNov 27, 20186 votes

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WukongMainNov 27, 20186 votes

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wolf jadeNov 27, 20185 votes

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WukongMainNov 27, 20188 votes

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saltranNov 27, 20181 votes

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WukongMainNov 27, 20182 votes

Garen

DuskDaUmbreonNov 28, 20181 votes

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WukongMainNov 28, 20181 votes

we already got the upgraded item 2033 though so we don't need a lesser item 2031

DuskDaUmbreonNov 28, 20181 votes

item 2032 then, if you want to be technical.

WukongMainNov 28, 20181 votes

item 2050 my eyes are opened to the truth now.

ProffessorAutismNov 27, 20182 votes

unless it gets falt dmg reduction from abilities as well it wont do shit vs mages,is it that hard to crank it up to 20 dmg reduced from basic attacks and abilities so people that dont want to be harrased for 15+ minutes whyle farming under tower,beacouse lets be for real wat jungler gangs top if other lanes have even a 0.00000000000000e+6gorilion.01 of resulting in a kill or turret plate. Crugs should just be removed and top made the new camp the whole lane has no other use than split pushing 24/7 to fuck with the opponents.

DuskDaUmbreonNov 27, 20182 votes

Most champions that go top die very quickly once you close onto them, with the exceptions of Heimer and Lissandra.

They also tend to either only be viable top (such as Kayle and Teemo are), or barely even be playable top and even then only into certain matchups (Such as Vayne top still being only about 45% winrate even at her peak of strength).

Radiant WukongNov 27, 20182 votes

MonkeyKing JarvanIV Sion Olaf Illaoi Camille Chogath Jax Irelia Nocturne Pantheon Ekko Rengar Riven Khazix Kassadin Kayn make quick work of pretty much all ranged champions except Swain Vladimir

JorenciceNov 27, 20181 votes

Cho? With what? The ability you can walk out of without boots?

Radiant WukongNov 28, 20182 votes

You have to know when to cast. Your enemy has to stop to AA and cast abilities in order to last hit minions. Watch the enemy minions as much as your own. Dodging your ability should mean they miss a minion. You do this twice per wave and for every cannon minion, they will be suffering for gold and spamming their jungler for ganks. Wave management should also be kept in mind. Try to get a slow push your way and last hit. This could mean letting the enemy hit you to draw minion aggro on arrival of the second wave.

JorenciceNov 28, 20181 votes

Oh im well aware how to play cho hes one of my more played champs.

But he definitely doesnt counter ranged.

Moody PNov 28, 20181 votes

illaoi loses hard to ranged champions

Radiant WukongNov 28, 20181 votes

You must be using her wrong. Set tentacles up adjacent to you, slightly behind minion wave, E enemy champion, Q spirit and champion at same time, W Spirit, amazing results happen.

Alternatively, E enemy champion, chase them down, they get hard slowed, E them again then R, instant kill unless they flash away.

DuskDaUmbreonNov 28, 20182 votes

Add in Nasus.

He wins versus most ranged champions, surprisingly enough. All you have to do is be competent enough to not int before 10 minutes, then enjoy two-shotting them with Q.

sneakydougNov 27, 20181 votes

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MakarakarnNov 27, 20181 votes

First of all, no. I think disallowing a champion from GOING A LANE by STAT PENALIZING them is absolutely toxic, more toxic than them going into top. And honestly, this problem only exists because of how defined league's mechanics have become. League is a STRATEGY GAME, and yet, no one likes strategy. Most players would rather play the same shit over and over again and just play what amounts to TDM games rather than actually use some strategy. Remember when bot lane finnally broke? When people finally realized that "Hey, I don't HAVE to play specific champions in specific roles, because the lanes themselves don't determine that!" EVERYBODY LOST THEIR MINDS. I fucking loved it even though I'm not a bot man myself, because it finally broke up the frame of the game. 1 guy top, 1 guy jg, 1 guy mid, 2 guys bot. That is the standardized league setup and each role has standardized champions. However it's the simple fact that the lanes themselves don't mean shit in terms of what you can play, however people are brainwashed into thinking they do.

JorenciceNov 27, 20181 votes

Hah karthus top would still be viable even with those restrictions.