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@Meddler - Phoenix Udyr's current state

KvotheAdem·7/21/2016, 4:18:41 AM·2 votes·1,079 views

> {quoted} > > On one hand we are hitting three things that will impact Udyr in a single patch. > > On the other hand Udyr's significantly out of line and the individual changes are all quite small: > > * 3% less MS on Runic Echoes > * 5 less shield/damage per rank on Turtle and Phoenix > * 5 less MS on Boots of Swiftness > > If those changes are enough to take Udyr from one of the strongest champs in the game in solo queue to a terrible state then we must be in a situation where everything's so balanced even tiny changes have monumental impacts. Given we've got a bunch of other balance issues to work on though that seems unlikely alas, so I'm personally more worried about needing to look into follow up nerfs than that we'll hit Udyr too hard.

@Meddler

What are your thoughts on Phoenix Udyr's current state after the second (arguably harsher) round of Phoenix nerfs? I can't really speak for the higher elo Udyr mains but I've heard so much stuff about how he just isn't viable around high diamond/master/challenger, and this is from multiple sources.

I know that's an extremely small populace but the populace still exists and so I don't think they should be ignored. There have been some very constructive posts and criticisms about Udyr and his performance after the nerfs and I believe they all hold very valid points. Is it possible to get some attention drawn to this at some point or can we create a post where we could discuss this in a positive light?

I really just want somewhere we could put all our ideas/thoughts onto one page and to have somebody from Riot have a look. Just so they are aware, not like requesting any direct or instant action. Just some attention/awareness of the issue from a dedicated Udyr player base.

Thanks in advance if you respond!

2 Comments

BlâckLotus7/21/2016, 4:32:15 AM1 votes

well since i found this thread i wanted to share my opinion on the recent jungle changes,back in season 5 i used to be a jungle main,i used to play devourer junglers stack up and gank all the lanes i could with jax/xin zhao/zhyvana.after the removal of stacking items in the jungle role i stoped playing jungle,im tired of seeing the same shacos and rengars every game,jungle should be about diversity but it seems like an assasin clown fiesta at the moment,the stacking feature was taken away from us and most tanks are barely viable choices for junglers,isnt that what riot was trying to avoid? now a "dead" item was introduced in the game the new rageblade,honeslty the only one i have seen buying this item is a vayne and a twitch adcs.