CAN WE NERF VEIGARS INFINATE SCALING?

Eightis·Nov 7, 2016·5 votes·947 views

MAKE IT CAP AT 120 AP OR 200 MAX, GOING INTO LATE GAME AND HE HAS 400 STACKS AND 1 SHOTS WITH RABBADONS IS NOT EXACTLY FUN GAMEPLAY DESIGN

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Pandemic PunchNov 7, 201611 votes

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Big LincolnNov 7, 20164 votes

don't let him farm then lol

EightisNov 7, 20161 votes

Don't let him farm??? im not a lcs challenger smurf im a regular gold player how exactly do i deny farm???

Big LincolnNov 7, 20162 votes

bully him like you'd bully any short kid in school

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 7, 20161 votes

lol yea i may be short but trust me i was the one to give the horns

EightisNov 7, 20161 votes

I can't bully a veigar player that plays super safe and takes tp, and when he hits level 6 he can still 1 shot me with just 30 or 40 stacks

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 7, 20162 votes

he is a farm champ that needs to stack cs to get his power spikes...

he is bad vs champs with gap closers and burst

it makes it hard for him to hit is ring of death and he has no mobility and if he takes TP in lane he is down a combat spell which should allow you to have kill pressure

Handy Sandy Nov 7, 20162 votes

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I can't bully a veigar player that plays super safe and takes tp, and when he hits level 6 he can still 1 shot me with just 30 or 40 stacks

He's not going to kill you if he doesn't hit his W. He is not going to hit his W if you aren't stunned. If he takes TP he has no barrier/stormraiders so now he's vulnerable and immobile. He's short range so he's not exactly safe. What champion are you playing?

EightisNov 7, 20161 votes

ANY ADC VS VEIGAR = R INSTANT DEATH

Handy Sandy Nov 7, 20163 votes

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ANY ADC VS VEIGAR = R INSTANT DEATH

Actually no. His R alone isn't going to do over 1700 damage unless it's 60+ minutes into the game.

BoulderoxNov 7, 20161 votes

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Don't let him farm??? im not a lcs challenger smurf im a regular gold player how exactly do i deny farm???

some simple things are that you know low hp minions are going to be farmed with his q, which allows you to predict him to do it, and punish him for it with your own abilities.

Forcing him out of lane is a good thing, freezing lanes is a great tactic, putting your minions behind your tower, and he has to walk precariously close to your tower and you to farm the casters with q.

hope some of this helped

LostFr0stNov 7, 20161 votes

He doesn't need farm, he just needs to hit champs for AP. He gets AP off of harass now. You used to be able to deny cs/AP but not anymore.

INNATE: Veigar gains a stack of Phenomenal Evil whenever he hits an enemy champion with an ability, and 5 stacks whenever he scores a champion takedown. Veigar gains 1 ability power for every stack of Phenomenal Evil.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 7, 20162 votes

but denying him cs will limit his stacks

PASSIVE: Killing a unit with Baleful Strike grants 1 stack of Phenomenal Evil, doubled against large minions and monsters.

LostFr0stNov 7, 20161 votes

He gets the stack regardless of hitting you or the minion. It used to be that if you zoned him from the creeps (even standing between him and the wave sometimes) you could actually deny stacks, now he can harass his way there so it's not worth.

Even mid-game (where it would really show that you denied him early because the AD coming mid would limit his stacks further) he can now just scrap his way back into the game with harass.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 7, 20162 votes

but if you stop him from cs ing the does limit his scaling .. and failure to see that is just beyond being blind

ADCsBabysítterNov 7, 20164 votes

Just play an assassin or a tank and take him out first

oSEXYPLATYPUSoNov 7, 20161 votes

you can every game you play... kill him, dont let him cs and dont let the game drag out ...

all those provides way to nerf his scaling

AstôlfoNov 7, 20161 votes

Learn to play and quit whining.

CatastropNov 7, 20161 votes

The late game afk farmer got to late game and is oneshotting people? Oh lordy, in this series of unforeseen events ah must clutch mah pearls.

AdalvarNov 7, 20161 votes

Gee...if only there where anti AP champs ( Kassadin Fizz Chogath Zed Galio ) or maybe items that could block Veigar's spells ( item 3157 item 3102 item 3156 ) that could add soo much counterplay to this tiny ball of burst.