We need to talk about Wukong.

I apologize for deleting the previous thread, par me trying to match the official r/LeagueOfLegends rules so I can link the thread so this is an open topic. We as a community shouldn't sit by and quietly let Wukong get hard nerfed into oblivion & should have an open discussion about the champion and the things Riot can do to address him so he gets proper adjustment.

I've been playing Wukong for quite some time off and on since 2011 and I started dedicated maining him in season 4. Not necessarily on this account I'm posting from because I've got through a LOT of accounts over the years because I'm unreformed and mostly play on LAN now to play with friends. My OPGG. I have seen this champion go from being an S tier pick in competitive & soloQ, to being an absolute trash pile dumpster garbage ult bot and EVERYTHING in between. From feral flare jungle, abusing stackable black cleavers, and brutalizer and flatpen. He's taken me to diamond tier multiple times on NA & LAN even during the worst times of his viability. The "Juggernaut" patch, Janna, Lulu, and Kogmaw shield meta, and the DREADED tank metas that riot loved to shove down our throat every season. Regardless, he's been one of the only champions I've ever truly enjoyed and always come back to despite the meta being ass for him because I knew he would always feel the same and I appreciated the familiarity of it. I'd been dying for a small or large scale rework for seasons, so when I saw him getting compensation buffs for duskblade being nerfed a while back on the PBE, I was absolutely thrilled to finally see him getting some attention, while also dreading it at** the very same time.**

This is flatout not how you bring in line with this meta or an appropriate approach to tuning him. The champion itself is still bad and flawed to his core. Some points similar to this video which was made in 2015 lol.

• The Good

• The Bad

• The Ugly And where does belong in this meta.

• THE GOOD Wukong is very good at one thing, similiar to old he can blow things up. Sometimes almost so well its VERY TOXIC to play against earning him notoriety similar to he who will not be named But with this ability to blow things up comes with a cost, pushing wukong into the role of an extremist champion who lacks the ability to have any item diversity until recently with the addition of So what's the big issue? Why is Wukong suddenly seeing such a sudden resurgence netting him a peak winrate of 55% on KR and 50% and higher on other regions with a low playrate of 1% until v8.13 where people are starting to pick him up in multiple roles Well my fellow bonobo it's simple, this meta is pretty freaking monkey-like itself seeing the disappearance of these scumbags and scumbags like them. The HARD NERFING of crit ADC's and and almost an entire disappearance of crit marksmen like . which was one of biggest banes when it came to mid-late game despite his excellent team fighting. So here we are now in v8.13 which is a meta every player could ask for despite his lack of an identity between an_ assassin_, bruiser, or tank & extremist raw AD & Flat Pen Centric build paths. His biggest counters OUTSIDE OF LANE are gone, leaving nothing but a scrappy teamfighting meta with other bruisers, tanks, assassins, and weak marksmen and nerfed junglers in front of him where he absolutely thrives and DOMINATES
  ......when he gets his items......

So, it's no question that is good this patch. It's without certainty. But is good for the right reasons, and why are Riot giving him the treatment by attacking the wrong abilities and issues this champion inherently has, thus the bad.

• THE BAD This champion is laughably & fundamentally stupid when it comes to his kit. He has the passive of a tank, the kit of an assassin, and is expected to be built like a bruiser. Leaving him in a state with no identity resulting to him having to be built like an extremist because of his insane scaling and synergy with raw AD lethality items.

• He HARD loses almost every single lane match up top outside of and and rarely gets the light of day to break even in actually competitive elos, there is only one Challenger Wukong player, Harambe. Everyone else is Diamond I and under. This is not a champion _ANYONE_ can pick up and just get to Challenger with. You actually have to understand how to lane with him and there is depth to laning which is easily the WORST part about Wukong outside of his clunky identity and kit. So? If Wukong is SO DAMN BAD why is he preforming so well right now? Well my dear Watson has anyone stopped to look around to see that all of 's natural predators are virtually extinct? Recreating a similar scenario to EXACTLY what went through where they kept targeting every healthy single part of his kit instead of attacking THE REAL problems. The meta. **The Items. ** And his Matchups & Scalings. THUS LEADING US TO THE ABSOLUTE UGLY.

• THE UGLY ** _RIOT THIS CHAMPION FRICKIN SUCKS DESPITE HOW MUCH I LOVE HIM AND YOU'RE GOING TO REPEATIDLY NERF HIM INTO THE DIRT BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW TO HANDLE HIM BECAUSE YOU'VE IGNORED HIM FOR SO LONG HE EVENTUALLY BECAME A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THE META SURROUNDING HIM AND IT'S FRUSTRATING. ** And honestly_ I'm sorry, that was out of pocket but it's the truth.

• Q :Something simple : This ability is a standard auto attack reset in lane you put 0 points into after leveling it once, it's standard run of the mill & does nothing until it becomes a nuke late game. You can't even max it in lane match ups against tanks purely because you sacrifice your early wave clear in E if you do, you get outroamed and dove as soon as someone slowpushes a big wave into you.

• W : The One dimensional ability : While it is thematically cool and does have some niche tricks you can do with it. You rarely ever get the damage off unless you combo correctly or they stand on it. This is easily the **worst **part of his kit despite it being my favorite.

• E : The bread & butter : The ability that allows him to lane and fight back against matchups he almost always loses while also having some relevant source of wave clear to compete with champions like. etc. This is the ability Riot thinks is the issue because of it's base AD, when you play him mid against and other champions like them. But once again, that is purely the meta and the result of Wukongs natural counters being weak.

• R: I'm the ultimate, I'm helping. : I find myself canceling this more times than ever to cycle off my other abilities because of how little damage it does, and why the hell does an ultimate you're incentivized to let keep going end up being one of the worst in the game you usually end up canceling in 1v1's and some teamfights? It does the bulk of its damage over time, but the it rarely ever ends up going off for that long after the knockup. While I don't think it's necessarily a BAD ultimate, something could definitely be talked about here that we're not addressing.

Riot you have a lot of OPTIONS address his scalings and even him out, nerf him into the dirt, leave him alone and let the dust settle or rework this champion and make him something new or attack the_** REAL_ problems he's facing instead of trying to band-aid nerf the abilities that make him excel_ Mid & Jungle_ while _hard punishing_ him top and forcing him even further out of the role. Address his agency, fix his identity, give him the rework he deserves and get him in the right role _BACK IN THE TOPLANE**_, where he belongs.

Marksmen are getting buffed, things might bounce back around in a more healthy light for and his natural counters. Please just wait a few patches and readdress wukong after his winrate drops under 50% and you realize that this is simply a_** Kneejerk reaction**_ nerf. I hope a rioter heads our feedback, thanks.