Yasou counters?

The 2nd Horseman·11/13/2016, 3:02:41 AM·6 votes·2,785 views

I'm not here to bitch and moan, just asking if anyone knew the key tips for facing yasou at various laning stages and more specifically tips for the Ekko, LeBlanc, and I'm usually ok as Fizz but feel free to share. Also tips in general for Lb would be very nice

(Note bans are not an answer while league is currently at 6 bans per game and 3 of which might want to keep yasou available).

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Brain Errör 40411/13/2016, 4:12:07 AM9 votes

Pantheon

Lets not sugar coat this guys. Stomp him. Stomp him hard. Stomp him forever. Watch him squeal. Watch him cry. Watch him rage. Burn him down. Scrape together his ashes. Make a campfire. Cook some fried chicken. Your go to answer for all your Yasuo problems. You pick him enough, maybe people will stop picking yasuo. You'll shut him down so hard, you'll be able to roam, let him farm 100 minions, come back to lane and still f--k him up after f--king his team up.

And the best part? There's nothing he can do about it.

JustMonika1311/13/2016, 3:24:50 AM6 votes

Ekko into Yasuo isn't very smart, and while LB used to do extremely well against Yasuo, I'm not so sure about that after her rework.

A general way of keeping a Yasuo under control is freezing wave just outside of your turret range. His mobility is instantly gimped unless he wants to take tower shots and retaliation from any smart person. Can confirm, incredibly tilting not being able to move.

Don't trade with him or call for ganks if his 3rd Q is up. Wait that out and then use the 5-8 second window to trade or perform a gank.

Always get rid of his shield with literately anything, even an auto attack when possible.

Bait out the windwall. Usually, most of your projectiles will have a lower cooldown than his Windwall in the early game.

Focus on buying more health over buying more armor, since he has his 15 second bonus armor shred after ulting.

If you're confident in your aim, any and all hard movement CC will interrupt his dash (in contrast to other dashes which are only canceled by airborne effects). If he's dashing and you want to put a stop to it, aim your CC for where he will end up, or even in the middle of his dash path.

Champions that do well against him include Malzahar Annie Azir in the mid lane, Pantheon Renekton DariusSinged in the top lane, and Swain Vladimir Kayle Lissandra Ryze from both lanes. In the Jungle and Support role, you want someone with beefiness and non-projectile CC in order to keep him still for your team.

Reposer11/13/2016, 6:28:19 AM4 votes

Yo, I got ya.

Copypasted from something I typed up a while back

However, there are a LOT of counters to Yasuo, some skill matchups and some that are just devestating for Yasuo, without much he can do aside from ganks.

Skill Matchups: Annie (Largely dependent on if she lands Tibburs before Yas walls, or if she's positioned to where it doesn't matter if she's walled) Cassiopeia (Though she's got a big advantage, Yas can win a fight if properly E'd out of stun or Cass misses W) Fizz (If he dodges a Tornado, Fizz can shit on a Yasuo with his burst, but at the same time, Yas can wall the Fish) Ekko (I partially say this cause Ekko main, but as of now, with all the slows on his kit keeping Yas's E's slower, and the huge AoE stun zoning Yas, he can easily tussle with the swordsman. Not to mention you can bait an E>Q tornado and dodge/burst with your ult if you play it right) Fiora (If you block the Tornado - you win - otherwise lead him away from minions and you may be able to fight him.) Karma (A bit iffy, but your speed and targeted snare is extremely useful, and you can burn his windwall with a weak Q before using Mantra for the real damage) Kassadin (Mobility, only one projectile, and lots of damage. Yas hates a good Kass, but if you fail to dodge a tornado, say goodbye to your life) Poppy (Disrupt his extreme movement with a W, then place him away from your minions with a quick tap R and E - build damage though, or Yas will still kill you before you can kill him, even without minions) Ryze (If you can bait the wall, you can engage once it's down extremely easily. Ryze has huge burst and the clickcast snare frightens a Yasuo, but if Yas lands a Tornado and you don't have him snared, you have to be ready to act) Talon (Unless Yasuo blocks Talon's Rake - there's nothing he can do, assuming you have everything ready.) EDIT: Not sure as of update, haven't had this fight yet Zed (Huge skill matchup, largely depends on how well Yas can dodge and whether he blocks your triple shuriken - get a BorK and rely on autos if they're good) ...Yasuo c:

Dumpsters Yas: Azir (Ridiculously annoying for Yas to deal with, and he needs a good jungler - preferably a knockup jungler - to have a chance to deal with Azir. Weak balance state aside - Azir can easily poke Yasuo, since soldier autos go through Windwall, you have mobility of your own, and your Ult easily disrupts him and keeps him from E'ing towards you.) Chogath (If you land your knockup or silence - he's done for. Build some damage and there's nothing stopping you from killing him once you land one ability.) Darius (Absolutely devastating, don't let Yas bully you too much early, and start W>E if you're feeling ballsy, he won't be able to do shit. Let him get cocky and E through minions to you, if he's alone you can stand in your minions and keep him slowed. Don't underestimate him, once he gets crit items he'll shred through you with armor pen, but if you kite him you can ruin him.) Hecarim (While not a laner, this is an example of a Jungler that Yasuo hates to play against, easy to dive him once you're somewhat tanky, and it's difficult to stop a Hecarim gank, and you can 'dodge' the Tornado by ulting through it, since you can't get CC'd) Irelia (Really shits on Yas 1v1, the best Yas can hope for in this lane - aside from the Irelia being terrible - is to not die. Yas DOES win the level 1 - and potentially level 2 - fight, but as long as you don't let him cheese you out of lane too early, he won't be able to fight you level 3 or up, and once you start getting items it just gets worse for Yas. A great Ireila can dumpster Yas with her minion dashes, if the Yas is playing behind his casters, and then he's either forced to flash or hope you don't have the damage to off him in time, since he has no mobility outside of your minion wave.) Kayle (This one is sort of a skill matchup, but favors Kayle. Nothing much to it, but if you ult when he does, you negate the ult and you can most likely ruin him with damage. You have a clickcast slow and your heal gives you movespeed, so it's hard for him to disengage if you've caught him out. Be wary fighting without your ult though, unless you're decently ahead or he has no minions/ult of his own.) Kennen (Man. Fuck this thing. While you do have a skillshot on your Q, that's your only downside, and it's fairly insignificant. Bait out one wall with a Q - or even some autos - and when you're able to, get a quick full round on him to land the stun, and you'll be able to chunk him hard. You don't have mana, so do this often, and once you hit 6, you just faceroll over him. Rush a Protobelt so you can easily catch him with your ult and you'll force a flash or he'll die.) Khazix (Somewhat iffy, but if you play Kha right, and the Yasuo isn't ahead, then you can kill him isolated with little issue, unless he's got a lot of tank stats.) Malphite (A bit of an odd pick - Malphite doesn't have a great time laning against Yasuo, but once you hit 6, you can easily fuck him up if you build right. Rush Tabi into another armor item (Randuins is best, but Sunfire works too) and he'll be doing a pitiful amount of damage unless you fed him. Also, your Q more often than not glitches through the windwall if he insta-casts it. Malzahar (Well, this was already explained. Nothing can be walled, you have a suppress that's clickcast and a silence. Have fun.) Maokai (Fairly similar to Malphite, but does less damage. Better for later in the game rather than laning, and best if it's in the jungle with your laner a good Yas counter. He can clickcast snare - and with Tabi/Randuins/Frozen (Don't need the Tabi, but they're great if you don't need to worry about other CC much) he has a bitch of a time doing much to your team, and especially to you. Katanas are not efficient for woodcutting.) Nautilus (Can't do much to Yas on his own, but Yas can't windwall his ult, and your auto also snares. Use the hook on walls if need to catch a Yasuo, and you know he has wall up. Easy to fuck him up if your team is able to provide the damage and Yas isn't fed enough to shit on them.) Pantheon (Yasuo can't fuck with you unless he has help. There is nothing a Yas can do to Pantheon unless Panth is already low or misplays. In lane, just spear him repeatedly, and stun him if he tries to go in, but not until after he autos once - if you can wait for it. Minion damage will help a lot, but you can just spend the lane using spears and disengaging with stun, and there's nothing he can do about it. You win lane, late game is a bit even, however, if he has minions.) Rammus (Not much to say, this is pretty obvious. Point-and-click taunt, built in thornmail, build a thornmail. Build a combination of Thornmail with Frozen/Randuin/Tabi, any of those added on will ruin him. Renekton (Pretty damn similar, you do way too much damage for Yasuo to handle early game, and you've got mobility, sustain, and an autoattack stun. Not to mention you can become tanky with your ult, and you're also resourceless. Yas isn't winning this lane without some serious ganks.) TahmKench (Again, even as a top laner, you'll prolly have trouble with Yas 1v1 - you just don't have the damage output. But your CC is amazing, you can spend time relying on autos, and point-blank Q him, then eat him. If he walls the Q, eat him anyways, and wait for the short CD. Of course, you need a teammate to provide the actual damage most likely. Tabi/Frozen/Randuins are all good choices once again.) Skarner (If you can get in position, he can't stop your ult, so you burn a flash. You can also try to wait for him to wall - if your laner has ranged abilities - and get an easy stun off as well. Easy ganks, but you'll need your laner to finish the job unless you're ahead and building damage.) Zac (Last one on the list, Zac is a nightmare for Yasuo if he ganks from the fog. The only thing Yas can do is go for an E - which will be farther towards enemy territory - or flash out. You CC him with no problem using E and Ult, and you have an easy to hit slow. Nothing can be walled, and you may even be able to 1v1 a Yasuo if you have adequate armor and a Rylai's.)

There are some general tips too, like how to know when he's gonna want to engage - keeping an eye on the minions/champs he's E'd - knowing not to run from him towards your minions, and to never fight in a huge wave unless you're ez mode against him. There are more but I've typed a lot already.

So, here are some champs. Take the first set (Skill matchups) with caution, they're in that category for a reason. If you misplay, or get outplayed, you will still lose fights easily with them.

Tyrone Lannister11/13/2016, 3:04:57 AM2 votes

Malz

grug11/13/2016, 3:38:16 PM2 votes

You should just straight up ban him, i know thats not good advice but it is and here's why

number 1 reason: most people who play on NA are lagging, having some asshole move around that fast is fucking annoying and makes people go cross-eyed number 2 reason: yasuo shouts a bunch of nonsense that gives people a headache.

if all else fails you could play some crazy lane bully like darius or some hyperscaling tank that eats yasuo for breakfast, rush sunfire and negate his lame shield

Darkest Laugh11/13/2016, 4:26:43 AM2 votes

Yasuo is designed to destroy ranged champs. So pick a melee.

Panth is good, Jax is good as well. Maybe Darius if your timing is good. Garen could be funny. Irelia does pretty well against him too.

LankPants11/13/2016, 3:07:55 PM2 votes

The ban phase is the best Yasou counter.

5050BS11/13/2016, 7:05:19 AM1 votes

XinZhao Every time. If you can do XinZhao into Yasuo you will win.

xWaters11/13/2016, 7:23:52 AM1 votes

Irelia. Just carried a game went 19/4 against a lvl 7 yas main who said Irelia was his toughest match lol.

MunchCrunchLunch11/13/2016, 7:26:30 AM1 votes

mordekaiser. its really bad for him. also. irelia. jax if you don't die in the early levels. akali.

darius is pretty easy i mean he can't really deal with you. you don't even need to get a black cleaver hes squishy has low base hp . gets close just auto and he dashes. E W and u won the trade.

nasus after level 6 is bad for yasuo.

renekton is probably his worst match up

singed is too because yasuo has no scaling magic resist. means he literally cant do anything to you.

kennen as well

NightmareAmazoX11/13/2016, 8:50:08 AM1 votes

Pure counters Irelia Pantheon Olaf Rumble Trundle Skill match-up Ekko Riven Fiora Jax Zed Swain Poppy Renekton Kled Singed Darius Annie Lissandra XinZhao Yorick

Daunt11/13/2016, 1:16:48 PM1 votes

For midlane it's Akali (at least was, i didn't try the reworked Akali) and Zyra

Easy matchup for Akali because Yasuo is also a melee and she can burst him down easily while he has little to no time to retaliate.

As for Zyra , you don't even need to come close to him. She has such a good control over the lane that he should never be able to come close to you, and if he does you should position yourself so that you have , about, 3 plants that will poke him down.

iLLp11/13/2016, 3:17:05 PM1 votes

Malphite ap bruiser build bait out his windwall by walking towards him, make sure to not use Q when his wind wall could block it, mash that e button on top of him and fuck him up

Azir dont toss your soldiers at him just place them and fuck him

Chogath ap tank

Kennen

Galio just because hes based on mr doesn't mean hes not going to fuck up a melee champion and heal from the damage he does by using well placed Ws

Sasogwa11/13/2016, 3:31:34 PM1 votes

Yasuo has no scaling MR. Therefore he is countered by magical damage dealers that do not mind his wind wall. Aka Kayle Mordekaiser Azir

raishinari11/13/2016, 3:34:23 PM1 votes

akali was a yasuo counter before.

idk if she still is or isn't recently.

new talon is a good choice in lane. just try not to W into yasuo's wall and you should be ok.

also Demacia ( Garen ) is good.

Stars Shaper11/13/2016, 3:43:35 PM1 votes

Riven Rumble Mordekaiser MasterYi Malzahar Azir Chogath Fizz Irelia Illaoi Kayle Trundle XinZhao Zed

Asayake 5150glow11/13/2016, 5:18:21 PM1 votes

Riven , start Dorans Shield, dodge his Q's and farm for first couple levels. First back a ninja tabi, then kill him with your base damages.

You gotta know basic canceling though.

Micbran11/13/2016, 6:05:15 PM1 votes

Pantheon, Malzahar and Mordekaiser all do well against him.

MatthewRT211/13/2016, 3:44:54 AM1 votes

Pretty much anything that isn't a locked door because yasuo has a key

HongChongDong11/13/2016, 4:37:19 AM1 votes

Yasuo relies on out kitting champions with strong dueling but low mobility and relies on better dueling and chase potential VS opponents who can't brawl with him. Best counters are things that will out trade him if he attempts to brawl and can chase him down if he attempts to kite: IE Riven. Though riven is a skill matchup none the less but if it's a good riven then she wins 100% of the time. Champions that will just outright bone him if he gets close like darius are also viable picks.

JerulEon11/13/2016, 6:11:20 AM1 votes

Akali after hitting 6

Galiö11/13/2016, 6:22:54 AM1 votes

Malzahar, swain, renekton, Mao kai, cho gather, galio

18 NAKED COWB0YS11/13/2016, 6:50:46 AM1 votes

Fiora Jax Irelia Illaoi Kled Kennen Malphite Poppy Pantheon Renekton Riven Trundle

Only Play Darius11/13/2016, 7:00:40 AM1 votes

Yasuo's hardest counter is melee fighters. Pick one into his lane and you pretty much win without trying.