Today a split juice on my keyboard while playng katarina. I tried to wipe the juice off my keyboard with a cloth and prevent juice from hitting the floor as well. When i looked up, "Quadra Kill "...
What the hell
Kingsgrave4 votesWell the Assassins that can't do all of their damage in 1-2 seconds are honestly balanced by design: 
The ones that just instantly drop people or just completely fall off are wonkier:
Direwolfiez1 votesI didn't think Kass could 100-0 people anymore after his nerf/rework/whatever you want to call it.
Kingsgrave1 votesHe is still effortless to play though. Instead of giving him a real kit they just nerfed his damages and upped his mana costs.
Direwolfiez1 votesAll I know is that he stopped being FotM and >90% ban rate in ranked, and my normals stopped having a Kass in every match. Haven't played him ever, so I'll have to take your word on it.
Knight SoIaire 1 voteskass got gutted left and right after some time and some nerfs he will rise again (less op) probably in diferent lane and with diferent role
Kuroi863 votesPanth is more of a bruiser than assassin. Takes about two seconds for him to assassinate someone. Q,W,E,Q. Takes a couple seconds lol. The rest of them really have to poke or trade you down before they can assassinate. Their kits might be a bit toxic, but that's about it.
Knight SoIaire 1 votespant is an early game assasin who falls off late game
early he can drop ppl quite easy
Their kits might be a bit toxic
not a little riot does not gut them hard yet but the meta is always hungry for assasins so one by one riot will wreck them all cause lcs will start picking them lb goes lcs- removing the silence lcs found a new assasin who does what lb was doing just not that safely- talons silence removed basicaly anything that goes big in lcs is getting hammered fast, and assasins are vital to this game because they are a natural counter to carries (thou they could use some work to counter the carries while having some trade of for this, atm they kill the carry and either get resets like kata or just use their still realy potent skills to aid their team like zed talon and lb)
Kuroi861 votesPanth plays like an early game assassin (Hence why he has the tag as his secondary.) But if you want to stay relevant through the late game, you need some tank as well, why I say he's more of a bruiser, though he is still a bit on the assassin side.
Actually, tanks, mages and bruisers can all work effectively against an ADC if played right, it's a matter of how it's done. Assassins simply do it the fastest and easiest. Assassins are a tricky class to balance due to how they work. They are highly mobile and deal high levels of damage. The problem comes when you start adding characteristics of other classes in. Mage like CC (Kass and LB) or fighter CC and dps (Talon) or even support style utility (Nidalee). Sadly without mixing things up, assassins simply start looking like different flavors of the same boring thing. But balancing them isn't as easy as people might think. You want an assassin to be able to do their job (assassinate certain champions in certain situations) though you don't want them to become dominant to the point that they push out all opposition. (Hence why we've seen so many assassin nerfs this season.)
Kingsgrave1 votesHe stops becoming an Assassin because his base damages are awful, he has entirely Bonus AD ratios, has no real multipliers and has no escapes so he has to build Tanky in order to even be remotely relevant.
Kuroi861 votesActually the bases on his Q,E, and R are pretty dang good. Though situational. (Q is best when target is low health, exceptionally good when you have IE. E requires you hit all three ticks of damage. Ult just has to hit.) He simply lacks the mobility and full combo ability that most assassins have. His ult is almost never a part of his damaging combo. And simply put, he exemplifies the ideal that CC can shut down an assassin, hit him with any CC during his E and you take out his big damage.
Panth assassin can work, I've done it a few times, but he simply functions better as a bruiser. My favorite build when I can pull it off it IE into merc treads into BC into Randuins into Hydra into Banshee's.
Knight SoIaire 1 votesyup its just like lee sin who transitions from full rambo killer to a "support or something"
Kuroi861 votesHigh mobility/utility bruiser. o.0
Knight SoIaire 1 votesballancing them is not easy yes, and they are so important part of the game that lcs will prolly force riot to "gut them" instead of ballancing (we already had an akali in lcs who wrecked without even farming, if stuff like that gets actualy popular and i think it will as far as adc is important, riot will be forced to act faster than their ballance team can aka gut everything, when they will finish mages with good burst will take assasins place )
Kuroi861 votesZed has been seeing pro play for how long and he's not been gutted?
Assassins can be balanced, it simply takes time, it also shifts with the meta.
12tales1 votesKassadin can't generally drop people instantly unless he's massively far ahead. His entire kit has pretty low base damages, and a combined AP ratio of only 2 (for perspective, LeBlanc is sitting on 3.7, on top of having higher base damages). He's very much reliant on getting off multiple spell cycles and using his W passive to match other assassins, these days - that's why Dade, one of the best Kassadins in the world, runs scaling CDR blues over AP or APPL.
Narasimha2 votesMan your opponents must have really sucked. Let me guess, Bronze V?
Der Lindwurm2 votesThey must have all been so low on health and bunched together that you got them with sinister steel, since death lotus can only kill up to 3 champions at once and it would've gotten interrupted by any other keys you pressed while you were wiping your keyboard anyway. The rest of your team was totally boss if they were able to wreak that much havoc on the other team and corral them that well!
apuig1 votes*The current state of Katarina
BlackRaven1 votesif only an ad assassin could do that. sigh remember when ad and ap were equal? no i dont either.
Direwolfiez2 votesI remember when Talon could burst as fast as most AP nukers. I hated those days.
SouL1ess2 votesI remember when Talon could burst as fast as most AP nukers. I hated those days.
He still can and with the right build has the largest amount of burst in the shortest time.
You should keep hating today o_0
AHeroNamedHawke1 votesHe still can and with the right build has the largest amount of burst in the shortest time.
You should keep hating today o_0
Kass has lower bases and lower scaling than other assassins
What you build has literally no effect on this
That's how math works
Just because you feel 2 is bigger than 3 doesnt mean it is
SouL1ess1 votesWait but the person I was responding to was talking about Talon
AHeroNamedHawke2 votesWait but the person I was responding to was talking about Talon
Then quote people so I can rage properly
SouL1ess1 votesO_O okay
Kingsgrave3 voteswell considering ADs also get tower pushing ability, I can understand why they arent.
Knight SoIaire 1 votesno they dont ap is added to the amound of dmg you deal to towers and inhibs (basic knowledge, otherwise ap's would be unable to even scratch that tower)
Narasimha3 votesOnly around 40% or so though, AD is still more efficient.
Knight SoIaire 1 votesdid you ever had 700ad ? because i had over 1k ap meaning free 400 dmg on turret hit
they push slower but only slightly the actualy fast pushers are usualy the fighters who can empower theiir autos vs tower like xin or vi
Narasimha1 votesYeah, 400 free damage with base AS. What, 1 attack every 1.5 seconds? Now compare that with champions with empowered AAs or who built AS, who usually do around 200-300 a second. Which one do you think knocks it down faster?
Wukong 0ne Trick1 votesTwo words..
Lich Bane
DrCyanide1 votesif only an ad assassin could do that. sigh remember when ad and ap were equal? no i dont either.
AD assassins, by the nature of being AD, have better auto attacks than AP assassins. An AP assassin, with their skills on cooldown, deals next to no damage with their auto attacks. An AD assassin, with their skills on cooldown, deal a significant amount of damage with their auto attacks.
I don't think anyone can doubt that this is taken into account when a champion is being ballanced. Yes, flinging a bunch of spells in rapidfire and bursting someone down is flashy, but auto attacks can be just as dangerous (see Fed ADCs).
Knight SoIaire 1 votesand thats the reason why ap assasins like kat have no cooldonws, those like fizz and kass have empowered autos, lb has her insane safety, akali has both sustain and the atack empowering
you cant compare it so bluntly because riot thinks about those weaknesses before they release a champion
SouL1ess1 votesif only an ad assassin could do that. sigh remember when ad and ap were equal? no i dont either.
But the only reason assassins can get multikills is either reset or low CD rotation, and the only AD assassin with that model is Kha'zix. Other AD(or AP, really) assassins are more like killing one target in order to put his team in an advantage to win the teamfight.
7ha7guy7771 votes
Am i bursty enough to join the assassin club?
Kingsgrave1 votesBurst mages have a different burst pattern and usually have no mobility. Thats honestly what differs something like Xerath from something like LB.
Seriphym1 votesToday a split juice on my keyboard while playng katarina. I tried to wipe the juice off my keyboard with a cloth and prevent juice from hitting the floor as well. When i looked up, "Quadra Kill "...
What the hell
cough bullshit cough
pics or it didn't happen.