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I know there's already a lot of complaints about matchmaking, but...

Xentai··12 votes·7,387 views

I knew it's always been a problem, but holy shiet, I didn't think it'd get THIS bad. The days before I quit and after I came back in the last week ish are like, operated by a completely different company (for the worse). What the hell happened?

I know games aren't always evenly matched, there's always margin of +/- a few divisions, and from what I heard lately players who are one or two leagues apart have been placed together, so at least I was told, prepared for that...

But I wasn't prepared for this. My last game. I'm silver 4. My opponent is diamond 4. Yes, I'm using the same mode, same ranked mode that we're playing, as comparison, I'm not using his best rank from other modes with worst rank of mine. You have no idea the kind of horror I had. I had to turtle behind tower and even then I still died a few times due to bad decisions (decided to leave tower to help teammates or last hit minions). If one of my opponents didn't decide to int and feed everyone on my team, we would've lost, and that's not the point. Win or not, it was plain miserable, and unfair.

I asked around, yes, I was told that games are matched based on matchmaker rating. What is the point of league and division then? Actually, forget it, it's riot's decision on that matter and I have no say. The question should be, okay, so games are matched based on mmr, and if players 3 leagues apart are in the same game, don't you think there's something goddamn wrong with that mmr system? Maybe it's giving too much mmr to low league players like me or too little mmr to high ranked players? Why should a silver 4 player need to win against a diamond 4 player in order to climb in silver IV?

15 Comments

AquariusGine4 votes

Silver 2 matched with Diamond 3 for me in some games. I mean, the diamond player obviously steamrolled over everybody, but the real question is why was he matched with silvers in the first place?

TheProfezzor2 votes

I haven’t noticed anything different. Matchmaking is STILL garbage.

Xentai1 votes

Sure, it was garbage, but even if it didn't improve overtime I still didn't expect it to worsen into hot garbage.

5050BS2 votes

Why Riot has unlinked MMRs for each of the modes on the same map is beyond me. Its Summoners Rift. They are played the same and have the same goals. There is ZERO reasons to not link Normals to Ranked.

If you have a Rank then that is what you get in normals. If you Only have normals then when you Rank you start from the bottom.
That is how it should be.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

are you playing normal? flex queue? solo Q? all of those have different MMR and the only thing that shows is SoloQ ranking in pretty much every single site so... what mode are you playing? since saying "he was diamond and I was Silver" means nothing if you were playing flex or normal or aram for that matter

Best Trist Utah2 votes

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are you playing normal? flex queue? solo Q? all of those have different MMR and the only thing that shows is SoloQ ranking in pretty much every single site so... what mode are you playing? since saying "he was diamond and I was Silver" means nothing if you were playing flex or normal or aram for that matter

he's talking about climbing into s3, so i'm assuming ranked.

Xentai1 votes

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Yes, I'm using the same mode, same ranked mode that we're playing, as comparison, I'm not using his best rank from other modes with worst rank of mine.

It was ranked flex and yes I'm aware different modes and Q's have different mmr. I'm using the same one in comparison.

BigFBear2 votes

Maybe you should mention that you talking about Flex in you start post shouldn't you?

Xentai1 votes

uhh...geniune question, no debate intended. What does flex do and how does it work? What does it do to make games like mine happen? I've been gone for too long and not quite updated.

I did mention it was ranked mode. True, I didn't say it was flex, but flex is the only ranked option in 3v3. Solo queue ranked doesn't exist.

Blackii72 votes

{quoted}

uhh...geniune question, no debate intended. What does flex do and how does it work? What does it do to make games like mine happen? I've been gone for too long and not quite updated.

Regardless of how it works, it SHOULD NOT match silvers with Diamonds, as simple as that.

And no, generally flex hasn't changed. Like it was, but worse.

Best Trist Utah1 votes

I also have noticed that LP rewards are wacky. I won a game 2 weeks ago. i was s3 with s2's and 2 s4's and the other team had the same. 2 s2, 1 s3, 2 s4. It was a relatively long game... 45 minutes or so and we ended up winning the match. 2 of us got 7 lp, i got 8 and 2 other guys got 9. what gives with that? the next game i got matched against 2 plat players, lost around 25 minutes to a ff and lost 23 lp.

BigFBear1 votes

Hmmm... a good player steamrolled over everybody and carried the game?? How is this possible? Because according to Boards: "yOu cAn't caRrY gAmEs anyMore bEcauSe oNly the wOrst plAyer deCidEs outComE oF tHe gaMe!! LoL is dYiNg!!"

Blackii71 votes

{quoted}

Hmmm... a good player steamrolled over everybody and carried the game?? How is this possible? Because according to Boards: "yOu cAn't caRrY gAmEs anyMore bEcauSe oNly the wOrst plAyer deCidEs outComE oF tHe gaMe!! LoL is dYiNg!!"

If you have read his post, you would've figured how stupid your comment sounds. lol.

Xentai1 votes

He did steamroll over me, yes, but he couldn't carry the game precisely because of what you said.

He outranks us, outplays us, but his teammate int and feed as your "worst player decides outcome of the game" statement dictates, and we won because of that. Like I said though, regardless of the result, it was plain miserable, unfair, and unreasonable for us to take part in a game we shouldn't be matched in.

haaaaaaalp1 votes

The past year has been a hyper snow ball meta where the worse team can sometimes build a lead and win based completely off of a few early game decisions. That is why games seem much less balanced even if matchmaking algorithm doesn’t change.

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