Juggernauts too strong?

FederallyAngry··2 votes·1,601 views

Ive played 4 games so far and the team with the juggernaut has a 100% win rate, garen is unkillable and god forbid u lane against him and you become the villain. Even sated devourer isnt as powerful as the juggernauts and if morde survives the laning phase you lose. Honestly what was riot thinking

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Lao Fu the Tiger1 votes

We have no idea at the moment how well any of these guys will perform. Most likelly the information you have at the moment is due to the fact nobody knows how to play as/against these new champions, not necessarily because they're "OP."

FederallyAngry2 votes

ive laned against garen twice, and lost both times. he was 0/0/0 at one point i was 1/0 (making me the villain) and we 3v1 ganked him all at full health and he killed me and still got away. late game hes unkillable and i wanna see somebody have a proven counter for him thats not ranged

MarshallBananna3 votes

incomplete anecdote is incomplete.

What where you using? Garen is an excellent counter to most melee AD casters toplane. If you where, say Riven, i'd be surprised if he lost to you.

Also, he lost tankiness and HP scaling, and his level 1 E is weaker than before

Radnar the bold1 votes

Garen is always a good against melee top laners......he was that way before the update. He is weak against people who can outtank him or ranged champs that can cut him down.

AzureKyte3431 votes

Skarner is a little bit broken now. And by a little bit I mean ridiculously broken. At no point in the game can you 1v1 him if he's anywhere near his little crystal passive things, and since his place is in the jungle you will almost always find him at one of these. You cannot run from him, and you cannot 1v1 him. He attacks far too fast, and Qs far too often. Since he will more than likely survive early game with the heads of many poor enemy fighters under his belt he will become and unkillable lategame machine. It's ridiculous. I was just in a game as Rengar, and I couldn't fight him. It's impossible. Riot please. This is a little bit stupid. Why would you take such simple champs and ramp them up to infinity? It just makes the game less fun for those who want to try champions who require actual skill! (Yes I know I said that after making mention of playing Rengo. Think of the others who would like to try Lee Sin and not get cheesed out of the jungle.)

Update: Forgot to mention that he doesn't run out of mana in the jungle anymore, AND up to 42% extra attack speed while in the range of one of his crystal spires OR if they've been ulted by him. Someone explain to me JUST how he's supposed to be balanced. We can't forget about the 100 bonus movespeed. PLEASE explain it to me. It's like Riot looked at him and thought 'Hm. Fuck our community.. lets do this.' I don't see any way playing against him is enjoyable at all.

Death Empress1 votes

I don't play on top much, since I'm not very good at fighters and tanks. I often simply support or apc. But what's happening lately is that it doesn't matter how is any lane doing doing, if there's one Juggernaut on enemy team. And more than often is see two. Darius or Garen on top and Mordekiser on bot as a adc. Like seriously, have you seen the amount of Mordekisers? Getting back to my point: If you're against Juggernauts and don't have any on your team, it's almost 100% likely that you'll lose. Even my friends, who used to play them before the remake, are often making jokes on how Riot went mad and made them absolutely broken. They chew you up, spit you, stomp you and then dance on your grave! If I'm playing Syndra and am 4 0 1, get a visit by 1 2 1 Juggernaut, my lane will turn into hell even if I was doing well before. What's the point of even playing if there's are four champions that will wreck the game despite everything? I haven't played against Juggernaut bad enough to be negative in score. Almost impossible to kill and pumped up with power. I really doubt that I'm only one who gets game ruined by them.

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