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A suggestion to help AP midlaners survive assassin lanes.

Art Vandełay ··2 votes·334 views

Hi Everyone,

It came to mind that a simple tweak to zhonyas could help ap mid laners survive the current ad assassins, especially with the new item.

My suggestions are- Seekers armguard now provides the zhonyas effect for a reduced period of say 1 second rather than the 2.5 seconds hourglass provides. This acts similarly and fairly to the hexdrinker counterpart which AD assassins will often build to fend off magic damage. Zhonyas is currently held back by the fact that the recipe cost is expensive after completing the seekers armguard component, however this change will make it possible for ap Mid laners survive things such as zed ultimate and other burst coming their way. Similarly matching the way an early hexdrinker can save an AD laner from being crushed by magic damage. it seems unfair to have such a large counter to magic damage-> hexdrinker, while ap middle laners have a lack of defensive options against ad assassins or burst assassins. hexdrinker provides both offensive and defensive stats, with a defensive passive, seekers armguard should act similarly.

It may seem overpowered or unfair, but currently, middle laners with the release of duskblade are suffering to stay alive in the early parts of the laning phase, even while sitting under tower.

This may help the situation and perhaps reduce the strain of playing against ad assassins in the mid lane.

Thanks, comments and feedback are appreciated.

Also sorry for the weird formatting/long post, I don't post much on boards.

3 Comments

resumed1 votes

i think that instead of altering pre existing items ap midlaners should have the same variety of items available to ad mid laners, so more items offering both ap and armor

Dreadlocks1 votes

I JUST WANT MORE CDR AP ITEMS!!!!!!!

With the removal of the 5% in the mastery tree, and item 3158 losing 5%.. I find it pretty backbreaking to actually get 40% cdr.. Before you could run 15% cdr per lvl blues, the 5% in mastery for 20% and then grab item 3174 or item 3165 and be fine.. Now its just painful as fuck.

67chrome1 votes

My suggestions are- Seekers armguard now provides the zhonyas effect for a reduced period of say 1 second rather than the 2.5 seconds hourglass provides.

Only 1 second is generally a better Zhonya's.

Most of the advantage in using Zhonya's comes from the LoL nope factor of eating cooldowns, abilities, and focus right when you use it. The fallowing 1.5 seconds are mostly a disadvantage that forces you to give up your positioning advantage, CCs yourself and removes you from the fight, while allowing your enemies to line you up and time long-cast skills when coming out on the other end.

1 second of invulnerability wouldn't be a worse Zhonya's in most cases. Something like a 5 second Zhonya's would realistically be worse in most situations.

Also: main thing I'd like as an AP mid (or non-tanky support) to deal with AD's is just having mana potions back. 300 gold on Mana Potions to avoid 1 death was totally worth it, and essentially made you a manaless champion during the lanning phase: allowing you to do a lot of things (mostly concerning your QWER to be a much bigger part of your kit).

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