pyke

thaBeast·6/8/2018, 12:20:41 AM·1 votes·847 views

i think pyke would be a better assasin support if he had other abilities that really made him a support while being an assassin ( if this gets to confusing just skip to the conclusion

for example instead of camoflauge ( which is a really good ability sadly) i think it should be something that helps your adc so you are more viable to go bot because the way pyke works is he could go midlane and then roam bot and just help them out alot which would really be good if you went this as your builditem 3060 item 3071 item 3748 item 3022 boots are situational but i think mobility boots would go good and item 3147 i also think once spear of shojhin comes out that you should switch titanic hydra for it or if you feel like it banner since i only chose banner considering how strong it especially that you are roaming . but as i said before if you got something to help your adc then your roams and teamfighting are gonna still be better than going support which would make sense considering that he is supposed to be an assassin.

which brings me on to my next point as to that this champ really wont be a support without a big rework and even with that it wont fit pyke as a champion

conclusion pyke is a failed champion on the sense of him being viable in the bot lane because the way he is played doesnt make him good until he gets his ult and level if the enemy botlane get lvl 2 before you ( which might happen) you are screwed if they go aggro in those short seconds an alternative to pyke would beBlitzcrank Thresh Nautilus Leona if you play for his q and e or Lulu ( ap support mostly ap burst items like gunblade) Sona ( with lichbane and a bit other ap items Karma ( with liandries)Lux Orianna ( build mostly almost full ap) if you play pyke for the damage

3 Comments

Phieldworker6/8/2018, 12:49:22 AM1 votes

Blitz, has a pull, blitz has a ms ability, has a knock up, has an aoe. Pyke has a pull, a ms ability, has a dash/stun, has an aoe ult. By that logic blitz would be better for mid lane as well. Pyke does just fine as an assassin support. He’s a play maker like thresh. Just has a different twist. Played a game last night and every time I went in adc or jg got a kill and we won the game.

I think there are two inherent problems happening. One support mains don’t play assassins so Pyke causes them to change up their playstyles. Other problem is assassin mains don’t play supports. So they don’t know how to set up kills for someone else or peel as well because they are just looking for the all in kill. Pyke causes those who wish to play him to change up their playstyle and mindset and I think that is where the problem is. People are prideful and don’t like to be told what to do with a champ to maximize their effectiveness.

DrCyanide6/8/2018, 1:03:35 AM1 votes

First off, item 3748 gives Pyke a maximum of 72 AD + 247 on active at Level 18, compared to item 3074 's 80 AD + 176 minimum on active at Level 18, assuming it's your only item that gives you AD. As soon as you pick up 63 AD (25 AD should be your item 3401 , so 38 AD) then Ravenous is better than Titanic. In short, items that scale with Max Health aren't as fantastic on Pyke as you're thinking, because even if he builds health his Max Health doesn't go up.

Pyke can go somewhat aggressive in lane, even before his ult, due to his stun. The trick is that your ADC has to be ready to go aggressive with you. He's fine for engaging in early 2v2's, I think where a lot of the problem comes is going from being the engage in laning phase to playing back in team fights.

Kai Guy6/8/2018, 1:35:38 AM1 votes

Alternatively you could just skip the subpar HP into AD ratio he gets on most those items, and Run Glacial augmentation and have slow on your autos from level 1 till game ends with 0 gold investment, then use the rest of the inspiration tree to save $ and be a support.