Morgana Mid the most underrated role

YounC0·Jun 5, 2017·12 votes·1,420 views

She can kill an squishy champion with just Q and W her ulti has 150% ap scaling. She has a good laning phase and counters 90% of the midlaners. Excelent cc and sustain.

27 Comments

nm1010Jun 5, 20178 votes

As a diamond Morgana mid main last season she sucks and nobody should use her. You also should totally follow these ~~garbage~~ great builds on Champion.gg

https://i.gyazo.com/8bad724a91ae58631470c23539001c26.png

######If anyone actually cares I can share the secret op builds.

https://i.gyazo.com/2aab358fc263afc518a0ad9176dfbf24.png

BobaFlautistJun 5, 20174 votes

I've been picking her back up to moderate success, starting dorans and rushing a second dorans for infinite Mana then basically going situational item 3102 Defensive against ap

item 3157 Defensive against Ad/teamfight

item 3136 / item 3151 snowballing or low Mr

item 3135 Need big damage asap

What's your build? And how do you play levels 1-4, which feel like shit?

nm1010Jun 5, 20174 votes

Double dorans into item 3152 unless its something that does really high damage I take flash ghost. After level 6 you ghost ult onto them and very few champs can escape without flashing. If ult lands w wait a second and q for a nearly guaranteed kill. Even if they flash you get a free kill with ghost's lower cooldown and protobelt complete. Only take 3 points into w then max q for increase root duration increase and stupid high damage.

Get item 3157 vs high damage or high cc teams, item 3165 if the enemy team is weak and has little disengage. A final build looks a lot like this

https://i.gyazo.com/f7448bfcaa5845cffe66586ee2e4a263.png

As for playing levels 1-4 I focus on shoving with autos on melees and 2 w's to kill casters. I go w e w level up vs another mage or w q w vs a melee. Starting q on an invade is good but hurts your push so I don't level it until we see someone.

BobaFlautistJun 6, 20172 votes

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Double dorans into unless its something that does really high damage I take flash ghost. After level 6 you ghost ult onto them and very few champs can escape without flashing. If ult lands w wait a second and q for a nearly guaranteed kill. Even if they flash you get a free kill with ghost's lower cooldown and protobelt complete. Only take 3 points into w then max q for increase root duration increase and stupid high damage.

Get vs high damage or high cc teams, if the enemy team is weak and has little disengage. A final build looks a lot like this

https://i.gyazo.com/f7448bfcaa5845cffe66586ee2e4a263.png

As for playing levels 1-4 I focus on shoving with autos on melees and 2 w's to kill casters. I go w e w level up vs another mage or w q w vs a melee. Starting q on an invade is good but hurts your push so I don't level it until we see someone.

Interesting, I'll definitely try it out.

You're obviously better than me, so I don't wanna tell you how to play, but from what I've heard item 3135 gives you more damage than item 3089 in any realistic scenario, so the only reason to get would be for higher shield values. Thoughts?

nm1010Jun 6, 20173 votes

Deathcap is really good for bursting squishies and their team was lacking mr that game

https://i.gyazo.com/dd115a0aa7635e6a98d54571e8d36899.png

If they pick up mr void is always better for damage.

Anu3isIIJun 6, 20171 votes

Void Staff is better in terms of damage as long as the enemy has at least one Magic Resist item.

If your opponents build MR, then Void Staff is the choice. No MR? Then go for the pure AP Deathcap offers.

RocketRelmJun 6, 20171 votes

I was gonna get back to Morgana Mid later this ranked season, I'm glad that the Underground Morgana Railroad is still rolling (every time I see people build Ludens on Morgana it makes me cry).

The question I was mainly asking was, since I was considering speccing into Double Dorans for Mana early, but they're removing the stacking, what options would you suggest for openers after that?

nm1010Jun 6, 20172 votes

To kind of reiterate my thoughts above I think dark seal can replace the second doran's ring without a problem. If it isn't working the other 2 options I would consider are corrupting pot into a single doran's ring or starting dark seal refillable into a second dark seal with the meditation mastery.

DrCyanideJun 6, 20171 votes

Will the removal of Double Doran's push you towards item 3802 -> item 3152 ?

nm1010Jun 6, 20172 votes

Probably not, I think that item 1082 can replace the second one without too much of a problem. Absolute worst case scenario I start item 2033 into a single doran's but I don't think that'll be necessary.

Double dark seal refillable opening with meditation is also a disgusting amount of lane sustain that I do on some other champions. I haven't tried it on Morgana though to see if missing merciless stops you from being able to kill some of the beefier mids in 1 combo though.

zaire90Jun 6, 20173 votes

Delete this post dont need u spreading the knowledge of mid morg

Tobias BracknerJun 6, 20173 votes

The fact that this has so few upvotes and comments is disheartening.

I guess everyone just wants to suck the meta cock and not even consider other options.

Alex h8721Jun 5, 20172 votes

Laning phase and killing squishies shes great, problem comes later game if the enemy team has a good frontline her damage is negligible and if she tries to ult engage she will get exploded in the 3s that charge the stun

Tobias BracknerJun 6, 20171 votes

That's why you have Zhonya / let someone else engage. Her ult is still really strong to counter-engage as well as follow up another person's engage.

Her damage isn't negligible against a frontline since she can still take nasty chunks out of them and hold them for allies to also whittle them down. If she gets in a flank she can go for some hardcore snare damage and be safe from any reaction counter-engage attempts. Her shield is also powerful anti-Ahri tech.

ƒrostγJun 5, 20171 votes

She is more of a counter-pick when it comes to mid lane. There are several champs who are better suited for the role ( Syndra more damage, Lissandra more reliable CC and engage, etc )

Tobias BracknerJun 6, 20173 votes

But neither do both. This is something that people neglect way too often and it is hurting how the meta of League is formed.

ƒrostγJun 6, 20171 votes

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But neither do both. This is something that people neglect way too often and it is hurting how the meta of League is formed.

Lissandra actually does. She can lock down a whole team for 1.5 or a single target for 3 seconds,, while also slowing them by 70% for an additional 3 seconds ( with ultimate ). Lissandra's engage is more reliable, as she rarely has to burn flash for an engage. Her burst damage is also higher and nearly instant ( Morgana has a delay ).

SeenanJun 6, 20171 votes

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Lissandra actually does. She can lock down a whole team for 1.5 or a single target for 3 seconds,, while also slowing them by 70% for an additional 3 seconds ( with ultimate ). Lissandra's engage is more reliable, as she rarely has to burn flash for an engage. Her burst damage is also higher and nearly instant ( Morgana has a delay ).

Except Liss' burst is weak as it is. Good for cc though.

ƒrostγJun 6, 20171 votes

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Except Liss' burst is weak as it is. Good for cc though.

If you think her burst if weak, you probably aren't playing her as she's meant to be.

Tobias BracknerJun 6, 20171 votes

You have math to support your burst claim?

WitchQueen AnnieJun 6, 20171 votes

Better than god damn Karma mid I can tell you that.

AbyssphereJun 6, 20171 votes

Gut her

AbyssphereJun 6, 20171 votes

agreed

Kind regards from us, Karma item 3902 Karma

GaliöJun 6, 20171 votes

I remember back when Morgan's was a mid and playing her support was troll. Those were the days.

NineTailedMysticJun 6, 20171 votes

Such a snore-fest though. I guess I'll start banning it if people start playing it again.

TargonJun 7, 20171 votes

I love playing Morgana mid. I'm in Silver, so she's probably more exploitable as a midlaner in Plat+, but there are so many reasons that I love playing her in Silver:

Very safe with E and long range W farm.
Great gank assists with Q and R
Awesome CC
Very good AP scalings.
Easy to proc thunderlords.
Great sustain
Good AOE.

When I play her mid, I usually go for a somewhat unconvention set-up and build. I use tank runes to get around 50 armor and 45 magic resistance at level 1, and I take summoner 12 summoner 4 with her. I start with item 1056 and I try to get item 3802 on my first back and tend to build item 3165 item 3020 item 3116 item 3151 item 3089 item 3157 (sometimes item 3102 and/or item 3135 ). Just landing your W on a squishy in the mid-late game will deal massive damage, and a Q>W>R (+ thunderlords) combo can easily burst down an out-of-place squishy. With Rylais, her W is a mini dis-engage, especially with fights in the jungle. Her black shield has a high AP scaling so she's great at shielding other fed carries to allow them to deal their damage.