Boards›Gameplay

Unhealthy state and direction of LoL (When can I stop seeing Lee in every game?)

Freaknclown1··8 votes·925 views

In all honesty I know this won't make a difference. Either Riot will brush it off as a person complaining without merit, or someone will respond brushing me off as a person complaining without merit. They still think Quinn is "good the way she is". However I feel the need to get this off my chest. The game in its current state is absolute garbage; and before you get all "well it's pre-season it's supposed to be for testing new things", no. No, that's what PBE is for. And even if it weren't, the direction the game is headed, and has gone, is already garbage. The juggernaut patch was ridiculous (full tank garen doing 1,000 true damage and outbursting assassins just because he gets a little passive buff? why even play anything other than a tank if you do massive damage no matter what? A tank should be a tank, and a damage dealer should be a damage dealer. THEN they did what they did to ADC's? Assassins are completely exploded by everything in the game. ADCs out-trade them with a little crit under their belt, and tanks out-damage them with sustain-damage and free hand-out items. They keep making these unnecessary changes that completely screw up what a fun experience this game used to be. They completely ruined Quinn, from a versatile adc/assassin that players who knew what they were doing could pull off cool combos with; they just changed her to this cheese-mode "spam your passive" champ with her ultimate essentially replaced with a "go fast button". They care so little about what the old Quinn mains thought of this, that Riot Repertoire even said "I know many Quinn players will get mad but I want to keep her this way". Do they just NOT want people to have fun with their game? What an unnecessarily stupid change. I'm honestly so sick of this game.

One last thing before I close, and it's honestly probably the main reason I'm even posting this. When can I stop seeing Lee Sin and Zed in every game? More-so Lee Sin? Every single game I play, I have to deal with that ridiculously mobile snowballer powerhouse that (again) out-damages me no matter what he builds, be it tank or damage. There's no chasing him, there's no running from him, there's no dueling him. He's honestly just ridiculous and I honestly don't see how riot can think this game is in a healthy state. It's not headed in a good direction. Let's be honest, this game is NOT what it used to be. Every single patch has done nothing but make this game worse for the past year and a half. I wish I could have Quinn back because she was the only champ like that. Now I'm stuck trying to find a new role, and everything I want to pick gets bursted by tanks or ad carries or lee sin.

Edit: Also can we PLEASE fix the range on frost-queen's? That is so stupid.

Edit: I know you guys love to thumb down salt-posts like this one before posting a real rebuttal, but please do try to actually think of a proper counter argument before going all child-mode.

13 Comments

DrNova4 votes

Sigh. I will rebuttal instead of telling you to stfu.

The game is not garbage. That is a salty (whiny?) opinion, one you give no good argument for, and one the majority of the players disagree with. I assume this salt comes from recent losses, which just means you need practice.

PBE is for testing to make sure there are no significant/game breaking bugs or massive massive balance issues. It is not for normal balancing. There us not enough player base in pbe for balancing.

The juggernaught patch has been tuned down to a good state. Complaining about something old is silly. That was precisely BECAUSE they listened to pbe balance feedback, which as I stated it is not intended for. It has been fixed.

Kite garden and don't let him jump on you, if he does he just outplayed you. CC and proper positioning are thing to use/learn.

If tanks didn't do damage then they would be useless. Tanks traditionally have limited/no mobility. You just need to practice positioning and stay away from them if you are a squishy. Again, practice.

I can't comment on Quinn, never played her.

I haven't seen but maybe 1 Zed and Lee in my last 20 games. Stop exxaherating. I don't feel like looming up your recent matches atm but you are probably full of shit. Don't feed Zed early he falls off layer. Get ganks if he's an issue. Ward if not mid and watch map. Zed is easy to deal with, just requires more knowledge and better desicions. Lee I don't know so much cause I see him even less. But a lot of the same applies.

You probably don't need to learn a new role, you just need to get better at the game. Mid-high rank people can deal with ALL these issues because they improved their skills. You need to improve your skills.

Frostqueen range is the least of its issues. Its being looked at by riot as an item though. Small grievence.

And lastly these posts get down voted because all these things mainly boil down to you just needing to get better. Stop getting mad and assuming the game is the issue and improve tour own skill level, which you won't ever so if you don't stop being salty and assuming the game is the issue.

Freaknclown11 votes

I love when people assume as much as you do. You say I have no real basis for what I posted, but people seem to agree. Also I didn't say anything entirely subjective. I just said the game was in an unbalanced state (which it is). You trying to ad hominem me to death by saying i need practice over and over just shows how bad you are at this sort of thing. If you know as little about the game as you do about how to properly form a counter argument, then I guess that would explain why you said everything you just said. Try harder, "go practice".

Edit: and no I won't "Stop exxaherating" rofl dude. You really don't know what you're talking about. Also I looked you up and you're bronze V, so GO PRACTICE.

DrNova1 votes

{quoted}

I love when people assume as much as you do. You say I have no real basis for what I posted, but people seem to agree. Also I didn't say anything entirely subjective. I just said the game was in an unbalanced state (which it is). You trying to ad hominem me to death by saying i need practice over and over just shows how bad you are at this sort of thing. If you know as little about the game as you do about how to properly form a counter argument, then I guess that would explain why you said everything you just said. Try harder, "go practice".

Edit: and no I won't "Stop exxaherating" rofl dude. You really don't know what you're talking about. Also I looked you up and you're bronze V, so GO PRACTICE.

I gave you solid reasons for just about everything you said.

You lack the ability to counter argue any of it since its based in fact, so you just say " you don't know what you are talking about".

This is why people don't give two shits about salt posts like this, because when people tell them why things are like they are, OP always continues salt and ignores everything with no counter argument.

I'm glad typo's make you feel better, but its tricky writing a long post on a phone.

And I'm better then b5, I just don't take ranked seriously enough and play too many random champs instead of choosing more comfortably/smarter. I'm fine with my rank it doesn't bother me.

And you got 3 upvotes, don't assume you have a mob behind you.

Too much salt is bad for you.

Also I love how I give you a counter argument and you go all child mode, while complaining about that very same thing.

Freaknclown11 votes

Dude stop pretending you know the game when youre bronze V I really can't take you seriously.

Slamurai Jack3 votes

You'll stop seeing so much Lee Sin when Riot creates a champion more compelling than him for the majority of the playerbase. And good luck with that. The only champions that are even in the same ballpark as Lee are Lucian, Vayne, and Thresh.

Poop Jelly2 votes

He's a cool looking champion who makes flashy plays and doesn't fall out of meta. I guess most male players like that (Not me, hehe).

It's same with all my female player friends, most of them can agree that Lux is probably their favorable pick. She's a picture of a feminine figure who doesn't necessarily appear to be too revealing and she can makes awesome potential plays just as good as other popular male champions. Based on taste, I guess.

J Epstein2 votes

Yeah, i love being q'd while under tower and being ulted into middle of lane. not anti-fun at all.

Troiann2 votes

You won't see lee sin every game when Riot makes a champion that's fun and intuitive that's also not broken OP.

The only champion that fits those above requirements, for a lot of people, is lee sin. So people play him.

Dominick Destine2 votes

Lee Sin is overpowered.

Riot will never nerf him because he is "flashy" and they can pretend he requires skill... despite Lee being the character with the overwhelmingly lowest skill cap in the game (Manaless, multiple escape mechanisms, built in sustain, fool proof abilities, etc.)

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

I dont get what you expect from riots end in terms of lee sin. You are essentially asking them to fix a problem that doesnt exist(him getting picked every game). You do not see lee sin every game but I wasn't surprised there since no one who has ever posted that has ever posted that has even had lee or zed in even half of their viewable games. Asking people to argue with hyperbole isnt going to accmplish anything nor should you expect a reply.

well yeah I would expect them to brush it off without merit because it took me one search to see that you like all the others are just straight up lying about that point. Didnt even bother to read the rest as the title alone showed me this wasnt worth the time.

Freaknclown11 votes

Haha, you actually take the "every game" thing 100% literally? That's not the point duder :^)

Edge of Daybreak2 votes

{quoted}

Haha, you actually take the "every game" thing 100% literally? That's not the point duder :^)

Well then you make that question a main part of what should get me to actually view this then yes. In fact you brought it up twice and it was the basis of your second section...

Also how can you expect a real rebuttal to what amounts to whining? What do you expect us to do hand you a lollipop and tell you riot is going to care about your Q_Q? Which if you haven't figured this out yet they aren't.

More from Gameplay

3 Refunds per season, upvote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay764 comments
7,167
votes
3 Refunds per season, upvote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay156 comments
3,510
votes
UPVOTE FOR URF
Gameplay606 comments
2,440
votes
Yes plz.
Gameplay456 comments
1,721
votes
3 Refunds per season, up vote if you want 3 refunds per season.
Gameplay114 comments
1,716
votes
When is ANYONE at riot going to address the awful new player experience?
Gameplay634 comments
1,383
votes