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The State of Sated Devourers

Diamondtear·7/14/2015, 10:27:28 PM·2 votes·957 views

Before people start flaming me about how i'm butthurt about not being good enough to counterplay i am going to say i personally like the item it has made the jungle more than you pick a tank or your a scrub bronze 5 noob. That being said the item is broken, and your blind if you think not.

Here's some reasons why:

  1. The item double procs items such as botrk passive this is a problem because in 2 aa's someones just done 24% of your hp and depending on there attack speed at this time this could happen between 3 seconds to almost 1 second, wits end will do 124 magic in 2 aa's. depending on how far ahead the jungler is you might just be sol due to this.

  2. It's doubling effects such as aatrox w and vayne w, this is actually a problem seeing as aatrox if blow 50% will heal for around 400 hp at a very low level, and with vayne if she buys runnans and botrk she can essentially wipe out your front line in seconds which honestly shouldnt be happening. With all do respect to this happening makes as much sense as me using bamis passive to procs rylias, its just wtf why is this a thing

  3. While there technically is a counterplay its not a effective one, high cc works but once you've wasted all your cc trying to kill this champion your gonna be nothing but cooldowns against 4 champions who are probably going to have been beating on you while you do this and have high hp if not full and most of there cd's. another way is counter-jungling while yes this does work the problem is you cant stop this champion from getting sated they will eventually get it, so if you go shaco or lee sin and shut them down the early game and deny farm they will get sated eventually and depending how long this takes they will have more items then when they wouldve got sated originally causing a even greater power spike and a lot of frustration, theres nothing worse than trying so hard at shutting down a champion the whole game then once they get 1 item they just snowball you so hard you can stop them

  4. Lastly it has brought teamfights back from 10-15 second battles of using cc wisely and trying to zone the enemy carries into whose jungler can blow up the other quickly which has made league very boring again

28 Comments

Skylimetoon7/14/2015, 10:37:36 PM2 votes

The major kick back of this item is not being able to gank as much. if you gank unsuccesfully thats stalls you from getting sated for a longer time and prolongs your power spike. If you do gank successfully then thats money for your team and a stack for you. Its a snowball heavy item. If you get behind a little it will have a huge impact on your game. if you know the enemy jg is going devourer and is most likely/cant gank well until lvl 6 you can push your lanes as hard as you want with little to no consequence. If they do try to gaank and are unsuccessful they are behind in gold and prolongs getting devourer, or they are behind in stacks and possibly losing dragons. Ive seen so many games where people complain about the jungler going devourer ad not ganking when the enemy jg is going devourer too. devourere is heavily reliant on your team either not feeding, or winning lane. if your team in general cant lane by themselves then going devour is like forfeiting unless you can really carry that hard, which isnt likely. This item is really just a big gamble. Its probably not even worth the risk in solo q because of how reliant onn your team it is. ik its strong bt if all your lanes are losing and you arent doing anything about it your not gonna be carrying

xJLx MCHammer7/14/2015, 10:46:36 PM2 votes

The problem is it works on some champions way too well

I get Yi is weak. I get CC kills him. The problem is, in game, if you kill a laner and you have 20% HP left, he can dive you. People say he is a weak ganker, he isn't. He is like Shyvana, he runs into a laner, if laners have CC, he will be very effective. His ult means that it's only hard CC that can stop him

Guy Fox Teemo7/14/2015, 11:13:01 PM1 votes

I feel like having to play a 4v5 for 25mins while your jungle afk farms, isn't worth getting devourer lol. If your smart you abuse that and win the game before 25mins cause 4v5.

djjomon7/15/2015, 9:04:40 PM1 votes

You're arguing assuming an inevitable power spike. This isn't the case. Pick an early game team with dragon control, or a strong mid game, and end the game before the jungler upgrades Devourer. Or, before they get an item on top of it. I've shut down Sated Devourer junglers in this time period. If the game draws out longer, yeah they get their spike. And it hurts for the enemy team. But what were they doing for 20-25 minutes? Probably not capitalizing on the 5v4 they've been playing...

Unrelated, but worth mentioning: Runaan's Vayne doesn't work. Silver bolts will only apply to the main target. And yes, it still shreds on every other hit with Sated, but a Vayne getting to that point is something impressive. Easy enough to shut down. But deadly if it happens.

I agree on your teamfighting point though. Fights have been interactive, fun, times of decision making for several patches. This patch, it's a matter of who dies within the first 5 seconds. I can play to that, but I don't like it as much.

LordGeovanni7/15/2015, 3:54:20 AM1 votes

sated devourer is broken expecially on characters who apply on hit effects in addition to building them Udyr once he builds this dares any one to get close to him and shreads any one in 2-5 seconds

Diamondtear7/15/2015, 9:17:40 PM

Long story short the item isnt OP its just broken, there's a huge difference between something that is overpowered(feral flare) and something that is Broken; i.e, Ruinglaive proc procing ludens, i just don't want champions that in all means and nature do not need a nerf, are going to be nerfed

Diamondtear7/15/2015, 4:08:53 PM

let me put it into perspective for people who dont get it. if shyv as sated, botrk, and her e up on you on the 2nd hit if she q's you you have just taken 52.5% of your in damage in 2 aa's worth of time

Diamondtear7/15/2015, 4:22:38 PM

Also if i may say people say the item isnt broken, if it can empower champions this much i really dont see how it isnt broken. if someone can explain to me how this isnt broken i'd love to hear it. I'm not against this item i just believe its not balanced properly, the ability it has to cause the champion to snowball is unreal

Diamondtear7/15/2015, 9:16:29 PM

i honestly just feel that shyvana being able to do 52.5% of your hp within seconds(1.5-3) is a little overboard, its something that has to be fix and i know they will just nerf shyv even tho the problem doesnt lye with shyv it lye's within the item's combination with shyvs abilities