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kayle adc is stronger than ap/as kayle, working as intended

mOwNRachel·3/13/2019, 4:37:01 PM·23 votes·15,152 views

you will deal just as much true damage by going 100% crit kayle (with guinso as non crit item for the AS ) than by going AP kayle. why that? beceause the true damage part can CRIT, and does 225 % true dmg with IE . so you end up having just as much true dmg on top of stronger auto attack. late game you will deal 160 true damage every auto attack with 2.4 AS, if taking lethal tempo you will get even more. it's the BEST DPS OPTION , and it's not like you lose anything of not having ap, beceause your Q ap scaling is bad. only things you lose is a little bit of damage from your ult.

and i think this is TERRIBLE, i will abuse it for now but seriously, UP her ap ratio, remove the crit part of her true dmg. this should not be a things.

EDIT : the full build is item 3006 item 3124 item 3085 item 3087 item 3031 item 3508 you can change the zeal item for example replace shyv with item 3094 , anyway, i found no way to build that outdamage this build, and you deal 160 true dmg late game, with precisely 3.5 AS when lethal tempo is available, at 30 min with gathering storm and 1 fire drake you will have 400 AD with 100 crit for some nasty AD dmg, you will melt squishy in 3 aa max, melt tank in less than 3 sec, and still have 700/800 dmg on your ult for wombo combo engage. give me one reasons why i should build her ap :/

74 Comments

GigglesO3/13/2019, 7:24:59 PM26 votes

Because ad is op...

Why do you think everyone on the boards is like "ad champs have it better" Ad neeko was the most recent case of if you can be ad why be ap?

Moody P3/13/2019, 7:33:41 PM16 votes

yeah... champion scaling with AD and using auto attacks does well when buying AD

Old kayle wasn't running full AP either. It was almost always on hits.

DrippyBrownHole3/13/2019, 7:22:54 PM5 votes

AD Kayle has always been better and always will be better

Sp33d Zer03/14/2019, 5:52:57 AM4 votes

"This build focused entirely on dealing high consistent DPS with no defense does high consistent DPS."

Thefrostyviking3/13/2019, 8:24:30 PM3 votes

The advantage of a more AP heavy build lies with her ult, Q and W, those are why she cant have as much DPS as the "pure" AD/crit build.

Oh and her E does magic damage so you want magic pen for it, a lot possibly if the enemy tank has high MR or a powerful steroid like Rammus.

OP you gotta put some thought into what you write before you do it :/

Mavëríck3/13/2019, 8:51:40 PM2 votes

item 3006 item 3115 item 3100 item 3089 item 3085 item 3031

I've seen this build a bunch lately too. one Q mitigates her need for pen items. crit, atk spd, damage (hybrid at that), all covered.

AirKingNeo3/13/2019, 10:44:29 PM2 votes

...and where's your stats to prove this? Or are you just bullshitting?

An Angry Kayle3/16/2019, 12:45:42 PM1 votes

Go to the practice tool, go a Standard onhit ap kayle (boots, nashors, guinsoos, deathcap, 2 ap items of choice) then go your crit build, it'll deal within 10% the same amount of damage on autos. start throwing in abilities, and ap kayle wins.