RIOT I want actual Discussion and Change

AnonymousGY··1 votes·267 views

First il start of by saying im silver 3 currently so I am bad at this game. I acknowledge that and i have been toxic in the past also want to improve that. Also i encourage that anything you disagree with to be stated as i just want a discussion so riot can make shaco a more friendly and overall balanaced champ. If this doesnt intrest you i still would like you to voice your opinion.

So il start with the upcoming duskblade nerfs in 8.6 that effect almost all assassin's. Everyone is getting a compansation buff except shaco who might actually get a nerf stated by Root meddler. What is the community opinion on that not just ahaco mains such as myself but any champ main. Currently shaco is solely relying on dusk and shiv to damage. This nerf is the equivalent of nerfing triforce and giving gp another nerf on top of that while buffing other triforce users like nasus,jax or ez for example.

I would personally like to see shaco reverted back to pre season 7 shaco sort of like has happened woth rengar this patch. Imo he is in a much healthier spot overall because of it and i understand he can one shot when fed but so can almost anyone. I like many other shacos benifited from the shaco rework when it first hit as i peaked at gold 5. However after constant nerfs to his kit (no dmg q, e change to do 50% increased dmg instead of the execute damage overall numbers nerf, the damage and range of explosion from his ult, and the ability to not stack boxes hurt shaco immensely) another nerf was the adaptive changes since shaco does mix damage or can scale with both ap/ad items adaptive makes hybrid shaco impossoble to play which i understand since its hard to build against (but then why have him scale off both in the first place)

I understand that pink dont reveal him (but they dont reveal akali or khazix to) both of which can instant burst you with a core item. With shacos current damage you cant one shot a good adc who positions properly because of all the shields and heals she gets in this meta. Tabi stops 10% of shacos damage since he is so auto attack based. Plus the new locket active i saw (aoe damage reduction) will hurt gim even more.

Personally they way i would fix this (even though im silver) would be to give back his old q and let pink wards view him. Also buff ethier his backstab passive forcing you to actually backstab someone to "one shot them" or increase the base damage on his e both could work. Personally i would let the boxes have more health and not letdrag on show them like before also bring back stacking. While his ult is in a balanced state except for some bug problems. Even adding a rune that would benefit him more (even though electrocute/daek harvest are great choices)

I would love for this to be trending and to start a actual conversation on the matter since it looks like riot just wants to flat out nerf my favourite champ to an unplayable state. Let me know your thoughts :)

6 Comments

Cowgirl Ed1 votes

He needs his bugs fixed, he doesn't need anything else

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

The compensation buffs are probably going to be extremely small nerfing all of them greatly once dusk loses damage. Shaco is probably going to come out okay since shaco mains kept his winrate high even when dusk wasnt good.

AnonymousGY1 votes

I agree with most of that and but i think when dusk wasn't good that was when triforce/titanic shaco was around and that will most likely happen again. However this time without his max% damage on e he will suffer. I guess my point is why play shaco when other champs do exactly what he was ment to do and they can actually execute it and get out with there life (Khazix Rengar) Thanks for the input btw :D.

I guess we will have to play it out and see. tbh i sometimes wish there wasnt so many skilled shaco mains keeping his w/r so high XD

Kazekiba1 votes

Pre-season 7 Shaco was the best. They hotfixed him into the ground and now I cant even play him anymore.

AnonymousGY1 votes

Yea i agree he was really strong and deserved nerfs but iI feel like riot gave him the azir treatment where he was just over nerfed to a point knowing that he has a dedicated player base. Yea its still possible to stomp players if you are good enough but thats every champ imo thanks for the input [sg-miss-fortune]

Forsaken991 votes

Shaco was my first main and will always be my favorite champion, but at the moment riot has almost completely gutted him as an assassin. The only ways to play him now a days is as a bruiser or some strange ap tank. Sure he can work as an assassin in the early to mid game but late game he turns into a joke that normally can't even do the job of an assassin, killing the adc. I personally hated when he got reworked simply because he became ap oriented rather than ad. I would love to see riot put him back pre rework and just keep his new ult buffs. Shaco was not a problem pre rework, he was balanced. It is true that many other assassins are getting buffed to be compensated while Shaco is left in the dark until eventually he will turn into another Evelynn from season 2 I believe. If riot could either revert his rework or maybe buff him, I think our favorite Demon Jester could be in a much healthier state and see more play.

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