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[SUGGESTION] Adding 5 Bans per every team in draft pick queue

Ymiladris·12/22/2016, 11:24:47 PM·2 votes·846 views

With a Change. The current ban system have 3 bans per side for those who is on third, 4th and 5th pick and bans champion and The first and the second pick players are not banning. For first and the second pick when i get the positions, is unpleasant, because players that getting bans usually will ban champion that can be picked by enemy on the same lane (e.g top laners will ban champs playing on top lane), and the second bad thing that firstpickers not only having "a loss of ban", the thing that they will pick first will increase their risk to be countered on the lane.

And now, WHAT EXACTLY I WANT TO SUGGEST:

  1. Each team should get 5 champion bans, 1 per player.
  2. Player bans should prevent to pick champion only for enemy team, so to prevent champion to appear in game totally both sides should ban this champ.

What pros would we get with that:

  1. Each player will get an ability to ban their most hated champion
  2. The those who on last picks will get a chance to prevent enemies who is on higher picks from "snatching" the champion they want to play by banning the champion they would like to play.
  3. First pick and second pick will get a chance to prevent hard counterpick against their champions.
  4. Your allies would no longer be able to ban a champion against you. This also would stimulate players to show their prepicks safely, without risks some ally wouldn't like it much enough to ban. Hello, Yasuo haters.

And now how this would look alike

Blue Bans: Riven Shaco Vayne Brand Lux Red Bans:Vayne Yasuo Evelynn Zed Rengar Picks: MonkeyKing Top ================================================== Bot Jhin Vi Jungle ================================================ Mid Ahri Ezreal Bot = ============================================= SupportNami Janna Support = ===========================================JungleKhazix Lux Mid = ================================================ TopDarius

  1. Bot teams banned Vayne so she is only champion completely unavailable in this game. And the second her ban is made to prevent secure.
  2. Our jungler thinks about enemy Shaco would counterjungle him on first 2 minutes and want to take his buffs safely.
  3. Blue top laner understands that his pick is 1st anyway and decided to go MonkeyKing and don't want Riven being his counterpick.
  4. Last pick banned Lux because he... ehm... just bought a Ultimate Skin and want to prevent enemy from snatching her. He want Lux and this would be disgusting for him if enemy mid would pick her.

And now the question to you. Would that be better for ranked queues, tell me what do you think about it and what cons that would have against the current ban system?

2 Comments

Youness3012/22/2016, 11:49:24 PM1 votes

So that means if you want to secure your champ, you just have to ban it for the enemy team and Tadaa you have it. Its pretty bad because everyone would do that to secure champs not to ban them because they dislike a certain champ. That defies the purpose of banning a champ. There definitely is some good to it but also some bad.

Holy Yorick12/23/2016, 12:02:27 AM1 votes

TL:DR Idea is fun. Not great for pro scene. Wouldn't want to see in my ranked. Would be hella fun in RNG queues.

It would make the pro scene hell though. One could pick the enemy strongest person and just ban all of his comfort picks. Suddenly they have a handicapped team, sure it's a pro he can play everything in that role. But can he play on the level of his opponent? Pro scene would just become "We're going to ban your strongest person/We're going to ban for our weakest matchup so you can't win that." In other words it'll just not be as good for them. Mastering just 3 champions is already hard enough for them, and let's not forget it's all focused around that.

As for regular queue? The idea seems meh. It might(Keyword might) just make the pre champ select more toxic because "You didn't ban the champ i asked" As some people will surely feel they deserve more than one ban. Reforming the ban system is not that hot of an idea. Any major change like that needs actual reasoning behind it. Current ban system suits the pro scene, and suits solo queue/flex rather fine-ish. The idea is good? Yes. Is it needed? No. Banning vs your allies? Sometimes viable. Camille was released and being a low elo player... I don't believe in good ones. Sure she's a snowball champ, but so is fiora, tryndamere even xin. Any of them become "OP" when fed and are utterly worthless if they didn't get 3 kills early in lower ranks. Or banning troll picks for team mates? Very rare, but useful! (Especially with the autofill)

I for one actually would like to see that playtested in normal queue (once the winter passes). But I wouldn't want change in my ranked queues. PERHAPS make this ban system for special game modes? It'd be an interesting ban phase in "All for one". And as for nemesis (Yes it existed): You'd ban what they can't pick for your team, which would make it double the mind games!