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Why in the world am I still in bronze?

B1GMONEY··1 votes·1,815 views

It's not that I care what my rank says, I'm simply tired of uneven match-ups in which I feel sorry for the other player and know his team is insulting him. I made it to Gold V near the end of season 2 or 3, and hadn't played since. On a new account (already near level 30) I started ranked in this preseason and was placed into Iron IV, where I climbed out playing against silver players. I rose to bronze II, then fell back to upper bronze IV, I am now at mid bronze III, but have well over a hundred games played and have become a veteran in bronze. I don't understand what flaw there in the match-making or Elo system that has relatively new players being paired with me. I understand it can take many games to reach our true Elo, but in the mean time I am feeling cruel when I play against what I consider a true bronze player, i.e. someone playing at an elementary and beginning level. There are people down here who have never played games except against bots. The skill level is extremely uncomfortable and uneven down here, which is what I remember from season 2. I had the same feeling then as I do now, only I soared through upper bronze then. I suppose this is what people mean when they say the game has changed. It sure is a rotten feeling though to be bullying new and part-time players. I would desperately like to get out of bronze. Also I have two other new accounts I need to do it on, and they are introducing positional ranks. That means 15 times that I will need to climb through bronze! Surely Riot can see that this is not right. I have a positive kill-death ratio 9 out of 10 games. There's something very wrong with this situation. I should never be doing so well in this game. If match-making was working properly I would be facing challenges in lane, losing and wondering what I did wrong. Another scary thing is that I'm not the best player down here... often games are carried by people with 200+ CS at 25 minutes, 15 kills, etc. I have been informed that these are "boosters" or "smurfs", but there sure are a great deal of them. A very weird Elo to say the least, and I don't know what the solution to it is. I do know that it was a heck of a lot easier to rise in rank in season 2 or 3, or so it seems.

4 Comments

Live2LetDie1 votes

you literally get out of iron by just playing. Bronze is still the worst of the worst.

B1GMONEY1 votes

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you literally get out of iron by just playing. Bronze is still the worst of the worst.

Well the moderators will not remove this post, despite that this lad has called me "bad", and so I might as well answer it.

As I said there are great skill gaps in bronze. This can be proved by reason of every player, no matter how skilled he is, playing at least a hundred games in bronze MMR before he could fall to iron. As to iron, I am not certain that you know the difference between MMR and division. As far as I know, only players who have played hundred of games--enough for the system to determine a good Elo for them--can be in iron MMR. I never was in iron MMR, and so I would not know the difficulty to leave it, but it seems that you have more experience there than I. I gather though that if someone had fallen to iron that he might belong there, and would not be able to leave if he simply played games, and continued to play at the level that brought him there.

A little advice for the future too junior: do not insult people to their faces. A little prudence now may save you a lot of money in the future, e.g. in surgery.

Live2LetDie2 votes

you obviously took insult without knowing how the system works. Iron is the default placement now for any fresh account just getting into rank for the first time. Bronze is still the lowest skilled player base on the ranked ladder. Smurfs will be placed iron but play with any elo higher them but still have to grind through bronze and iron now, when we use to be placed directly in S1-G5. There are the facts.

And facts can be taken as an insult but it wont change the nature of how the system works. The lower a player is on the rank ladder the worst they are skill based.

B1GMONEY1 votes

I think one of the difficulties may be that new players begin with silver or bronze MMR, and it can take many games for them to fall to Iron MMR. This causes the discrepancy where new and part-time players may only be placed in their proper MMR after hundreds of games, but that new and part-time players may never play hundreds of games of ranked.

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