Shojin doesn't need to be remove from Summoner's Rift.

AquariiuSss··1 votes·1,366 views

Shojin is core item some top bruiser to fully reach their potential such as Jax, Renekton, Riven, Olaf, etc.. However, due to its passive, after casting ultimate, the next attack grants user Awakened Dragon. Awakened Dragon gain 50% bonus AS, and basic attack refund 20% of your remaining basic abilities cooldown on-attack. Due to the passive that gain the user 50% bonus AS and auto attack refund 20% of your remaining basic abilities. However, the broken part of its passive is that it gain 50% bonus AS so that it can synergy stronger with its other passive (which is reduce cooldown of basic abilities on basic attack) and the players had been complaining about Shojin's broken passive. However, removing Shojin meaning an indirect nerf bruiser champ that relies on the item to fully spike potential earlier, also an over nerf for Jax and Renekton as they really rely on their cooldown for duel when splitpushing and as well as Jax's 1v9 carry potential. Increase its price to to 3700-3800 would make it more balance, either nerf its passive from 50% bonus AS to 20% AS or just remove it and keep the price as 3400 which would help.

PS: Sorry for my bad english and grammar.

16 Comments

ViperVenom2 votes

No Shojin is a broken af cancer that provides a way too powerful spike, now bruisers can actually be balanced not having to worry about how broken they become when they can buy shojin and spam abilities that are supposed to have cooldowns.

AquariiuSss1 votes

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No Shojin is a broken af cancer that provides a way too powerful spike, now bruisers can actually be balanced not having to worry about how broken they become when they can buy shojin and spam abilities that are supposed to have cooldowns. Yes, I agree with your point. However, dealing with 1 champ abusing it is better than just removing it that so champs that build Shojin will still reach their powerspike. The point of Riot removing Shojin is because champ that relies on their cd to deal dmg like Renekton won't be able to abuse it and be way broken. Rather than removing it, riot should work on balancing champ abuse it like reducing their base cd which will help better than removing Shojin which will f*** up other champ too. Riot is always over nerf/buff so I'm not really surprise, removing Shojin is just a "lazy" solution to reduce champs like Renekton's power.

Also just like I said above, removing the bonus attack speed reduce its power and increase price would help rather than remove it

ViperVenom1 votes

NO, theres no champs that need Shojin. Only champs that abuse Shojin and have no counterplay, use it. Renekton spamming abilities with no cooldowns, or never being able to auto jax wont be fixed by a price increase. Youre just trying to find a BS placebo nerf (increasing cost, reducing AS) to keep the broken af cdr.

Kazekiba1 votes

Just un-rework it.

"Gain 10-35(based on level)(+6% bonus AD)% damage reduction while near 3+ enemy champion, up to a cap of 15-60% (based on level)."

AquariiuSss1 votes

that would make it become a 2nd Gargoyle plate. Rather than that, just nerf it by increase price and remove bonus attack speed so bruisers can't abuse the cdr

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

They honestly never needed that item in the 1st place. They never suffered that hard before it got introduced. Just learn to manage your cooldowns.

AquariiuSss1 votes

Olaf and Renekton kind off need it to prevent them from falling off hard late game and reach their powerspike faster and as well as their duel abilities

R0ses R Red1 votes

They're balanced around falling off though. At the earlier stages of the game, those two can faceroll the majority of laners.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

Personally, I'm amused that so many people are agreeing with me (that it should be removed) now that Riot's doing it, but back when I was first to say it everyone was like "Dude it's not even powerful, no one cares, kys."

Kalienor1 votes

Consider a lot of people didn't care to correct them (nor support you, depending of your PoV) because this item was so obviously flawed you knew their defenders were impossible to discuss with.

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

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Consider a lot of people didn't care to correct them (nor support you, depending of your PoV) because this item was so obviously flawed you knew their defenders were impossible to discuss with.

Reasonable enough, though they seem more than happy to downvote me even now. You'd figure at least a few of them would've taken two seconds to go "Yeah, give this some exposure" and upvote.

MrEnds1 votes

And... Yep Jax main.

Sukishoo1 votes

fully reach their potential

More like to abuse their power.

xDogMeatx1 votes

Ashe ITS OVER JAX I GOT THE HIGH GROUND. you underestimate my power Jax-item 3161 .

Posui Gart1 votes

However, the broken part of its passive is that it gain 50% bonus AS so that it can synergy stronger with its other passive

No. The broken part of its passive is how it interacts with AA resets and spells that are supposed to have a cd as their weak point. I didn't really see any successfull ranged ADC with spear(well maybe i missed a Lucian getting this as a 2nd/3rd item once).

nachocheeseeeee1 votes

I always knew this item was going to be removed sooner or later.

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