I really can't get out of bronze, help

Kanye EUWest MIJ·Apr 8, 2018·2 votes·5,032 views

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I really need tips i have been bronze since forever, tried everything but cant get out of this hell. i main the adc role (mf) but i also play top, mid, and supp jungler only sej, i always have a good farm with every champ, and i dont ever recall feeding my lane, i always buy wards, i know the items to buy when im behind or not, i know to last hit and harass in lane, i use my ult in good situations also i know when to take objectives, still i only got bronze 2 last season and now im bronze 4 with lost after lost, i tried every role and i cant find one where i would have a good win rate, i mean my win rate is 54 on mf on like 30 games and that's not good at all. pls give me some tips and i have my op.gg link so u can see my farm and kda.ty

22 Comments

AzurifyApr 8, 20182 votes

As far as I can tell, you don't play bad but here's the thing: ADC hasn't been able to close out a game as effectively as a mid or jungle can lately.

I'd suggest grabbing a carry oriented champion like Udyr for jungle and learning how to play him for about 20 normals games, get the hang out of abusing his early game pressure and using it to apply a winning condition for your team. You'll have an easier time asserting a win condition as a carry oriented jungler in this season than a supportive jungle. You always want to verify who on your team is doing good, who will need help, and what lane you should preferably stay away from as certain champions.

You can review your teammates by looking at op.gg's live game function or Mobalytic's pre-game function, these help identify a lot about teammates and enemies and how they are prone to play.

If you have any questions about anything else I'd be obliged to answer.

Kanye EUWest MIJApr 8, 20182 votes

i actually like udyr, so are u telling me i should apply pressure by regularly ganking the lanes that are behind and them just let my team do the work late ? ty

AzurifyApr 8, 20181 votes

Yes, Udyr is a very early game champ. If you are not able to close the game pre-25 it becomes very challenging for him to keep participating in the game. You want to be providing ganks to primarily one lane, two if you have too. You will have to decide what lane seems to be able to provide you with your win condition and camp that lane until the goal is achieved.

You will always want to hit level three and immediately run to a lane and try to gank, even if it only applies pressure. You could even apply with with a level two gank although I do not entirely advise it.

You don't always want to gank lanes that are losing too hard but if they are only down by a little bit it would be in best interest to help them catch back up. If they are beyond helping, say 0/5 and you have tried to help them already I would suggest focusing on a lane that has more presence in the game to allow for your laner to be relieved of that pressure by forcing their enemy to roam down to the lane you are pressuring forward.

I am definitely not the best Udyr to watch for tips on how to play but I do suggest watching how Trick2G builds and plays in various occasions against different junglers and how he abuses his patterns to victory.

Kanye EUWest MIJApr 8, 20182 votes

Sp33d Zer0Apr 8, 20181 votes

Be careful with Udyr. If you don't know how to play the entire map properly he is one of the worst characters in the game.

Sun Wu RyuumokuApr 8, 20181 votes

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As far as I can tell, you don't play bad

He's bronze, ofc he play bad.

but here's the thing: ADC hasn't been able to close out a game as effectively as a mid or jungle can lately.

This isn't why he cant get out of bronze.

I'd suggest grabbing a carry oriented champion like Udyr for jungle and learning how to play him for about 20 normals games, get the hang out of abusing his early game pressure and using it to apply a winning condition for your team. You'll have an easier time asserting a win condition as a carry oriented jungler in this season than a supportive jungle. You always want to verify who on your team is doing good, who will need help, and what lane you should preferably stay away from as certain champions.

i wouldn't advice Udyr for learning jungle/game..

AzurifyApr 8, 20183 votes

You provide absolutely no advice for him, please don't reply if all you're going to do is make nonsense points that lead nowhere.

Also by the look of it you have absolutely no concept on jg learning stances since you've had a combined total of 2 games in jungle out of some 250 this season and almost similar small percentages every other season. Udyr is by far one of the easiest champions to learn in the jungle and the easiest to abuse in jungle. Also notice that the word "like" is directly in front of udyr which doesn't mean I am forcing him to play udyr but carry oriented junglers.

So please do not come to a post to provide commments on a comment you provide absolutely no substance to. You provided no insight to why he can't get out of bronze and only quoted my comments and made petty comments towards him or against whatever I said.

He is not playing bad for his elo and one of the reasons that bronze players always seem to have trouble with are playing the wrong lanes for them to get out of an elo or improve themselves. Playing mid or jungle offer massive improvements for carry chances compared to being stuck in a lane where you have to bet a 50/50 that his support will be able to sustain you and provide good engage.

Sun Wu RyuumokuApr 9, 20182 votes

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You provide absolutely no advice for him, please don't reply if all you're going to do is make nonsense points that lead nowhere.

i already wrote my advice... https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/uJO9h5Qy-i-really-cant-get-out-of-bronze-help?comment=0008

Also by the look of it you have absolutely no concept on jg learning stances since you've had a combined total of 2 games in jungle out of some 250 this season and almost similar small percentages every other season.

This BS. To begin i have more than one account. And last season i played many games as jungle. Thats how i got out of plat V when i was tilted.

Udyr is by far one of the easiest champions to learn in the jungle and the easiest to abuse in jungle. Also notice that the word "like" is directly in front of udyr which doesn't mean I am forcing him to play udyr but carry oriented junglers.

Never say Udyr was hard to play. i say

i wouldn't advice Udyr for learning jungle/game..

Cause you don't play Udyr like other usual junglers. You could say Shyvana and i would say the same thing. its same like advicing to play Quinn/heimerdinger to learn top. i don't get why u seems triggered.

So please do not come to a post to provide commments on a comment you provide absolutely no substance to. You provided no insight to why he can't get out of bronze and only quoted my comments and made petty comments towards him or against whatever I said.

Saying he play bad isn't petty. if you say to someone he don't play good, he won't question himself. Its not bashing saying to someone he play bad.

He is not playing bad for his elo

When u want to climb, u need to play Better than your elo. sames for plats, diams...

and one of the reasons that bronze players always seem to have trouble with are playing the wrong lanes for them to get out of an elo or improve themselves.

cant really disagree... cause they make to many mistakes (bad pathing, bad farming, overgank, afk farm...)

Playing mid or jungle offer massive improvements for carry chances compared to being stuck in a lane where you have to bet a 50/50 that his support will be able to sustain you and provide good engage.

i agree for the first part. For botlane, i think its more due to players being worse than other players at equal elo ... but its another topic.

AzurifyApr 9, 20182 votes

I'm not meaning to be passive aggressive but just dealing with a lot of people who don't contribute to boards comments other than to say "that's not the reason". Now that you provided insight it makes more sense and I really do apologize for my hostile attitude earlier.

ShahamutApr 8, 20182 votes

Focus objectives.

Assuming everything else you said is true, that's the only thing you haven't mentioned. Every time you or a teammate gets a kill, (assuming you aren't dangerously low hp) try to take something else as well: dragon, towers, enemy jungle camps, etc.

Best advice I ever got to get out of bronze.

RanmaruApr 8, 20182 votes

Look at my match history i climbed from the hell of bronze 3 25 lp to silver 5 hardstuck 51 lp by one tricking janna

archerno1Apr 8, 20181 votes

Why are you building lethality on MF so much? Even when you are losing and far behind? Your builds are freaking me out completely. https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3591637973/226967551?tab=overview

Look at this game. You built both item 3036 + item 3033 even tho they dont stack. You wasted 2600 gold for no reason.

In a lot of games your builds make 0 sense. item 3800 on Sion which is pointless, item 3147 on MF regardless of matchup. I mean why would u build it anyway? Also picking stuff that you shouldnt touch unless u are at least Diamond skilled like Draven:

https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3578820494/226967551?tab=overview

MF is good choice for your elo, but your builds are stupid.

I feel like your only strength is laning. You do well in lane, but you dont know what to build, when to build it and how to play after laning phase.

Kanye EUWest MIJApr 8, 20181 votes

i think it goes good with her, so i always build lethality

Kanye EUWest MIJApr 8, 20181 votes

so what should i build then ?

archerno1Apr 8, 20181 votes

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so what should i build then ?

Depends on matchup but afaik standard build for MF would be item 3508 item 3031 item 3094 item 3036 item 3072 / item 3139

Kanye EUWest MIJApr 8, 20181 votes

in this order ?

Sp33d Zer0Apr 8, 20181 votes

Order will always depend on a case by case basis.

Infinity edge rush is actually surprisingly good on MF for lane because of how the crit mechanic with her Q works.

SprixOkApr 8, 20181 votes

what i did to climb hard before my account got banned was that i quit playing ranked for a while and only played draft so then i can improve my skills, carry my weight, and carry my lane/team so that way i can play without losing LP and get better taking a bit of stress off. but if you already can carry your weight and or team I would try playing draft and get good enough to the point where you can make the enemy laner useless and just tilt him and possibly their entire team then go back to ranked and snowball all the way out (edit) I just checked your op.gg and your mmr is 100 lower than a b4 player so that's probably another reason why you're stuck try not surrendering if possible because that lowers your mmr aswell and if you win more and climb more your mmr will climb with your elo and you'll get better teammates aswell

Sp33d Zer0Apr 8, 20181 votes

You say you CS well, but you're averaging around 4-6 cs/minute. That is ranging from terrible to mediocre. That would be a good place to start a fix.

FireBlaze100Apr 8, 20181 votes

Dont play champs that you have 0 experience on otherwise you are just giving yourself a loss.

TomosimaApr 8, 20181 votes

Have you tried using your keyboard alongside your mouse?

Sun Wu RyuumokuApr 8, 20181 votes

Many things...

To begin don't play jng if you main role's supp or adc. Theses players have a really bad game vision (usualy) and don't know how to lane (for jungling you need to understand how lane work).

And then :