Kleptomancy Should be Nerfed (IMO)

TurnaboutSticks·Mar 27, 2018·2 votes·381 views

I feel like everytime I play against a champion using Klepto I'm always behind. When you're ahead of a Klepto champion, they catch up fast, when you're behind they are farther ahead. Not to mention the champion can get a random power spike depending on the elixir they might get. I already hate RNG in my card games, I don't want more RNG in my league. I often find myself questioning why is suddenly doing my health in damage only to find out his Q is already maxed ranked from popping Elixir of Skill and he's rocking Pilfered Potion of Rogue + Travel Size Elixir of Wrath.

I will add though that I am low ELO and I've only been playing since S3, so my opinion might not be that valid but I feel like this game is slowly losing the enjoyable aspect of it. I hate RNG with a passion as an in-game mechanic so I actually decided to make a post about it.

9 Comments

CrazFight Mar 27, 20183 votes

Klepto should be removed from league and replaced, imo. I don't think riot is going to ever do it tho :(

RenownedWheat42Mar 27, 20182 votes

Klepto's already gotten hit

undesirable teamMar 27, 20182 votes

still a toxic playstyle

RenownedWheat42Mar 27, 20182 votes

Toxic or not is subjective. Fact of the matter is it's already gotten nerfed and even champs who spammed it before (GP) are taking alternatives in plenty of cases.

TurnaboutSticksMar 27, 20182 votes

According to op.gg some of the highest winrate characters use Klepto to success one way or another. Gangplank Fiora Ezreal cover the highest tier as all Klepto users. Maybe that's only the case in Plat+ tier though?

RenownedWheat42Mar 27, 20182 votes

They're not the highest winrate despite being so high on the tier list tho. If you want to look at that specifically, GP is 27th in winrate, Fiora 64th, and Ez 40th. Winrate doesn't say enough either.

Also, Klepto being nerfed doesn't mean it's not still usable. If it had been nerfed to the point that it's only users NEVER use it anymore, that'd be too much.

That being said, Tankplank (Grasp keystone) is not uncommon. Conqueror Fiora is also growing in popularity.

Sona PingMar 27, 20181 votes

"I feel like everytime I play against a champion using Klepto I'm always behind." Klepto already starts people off "behind", so if you are not using that and let someone who is "behind" get ahead while you are ahead so much that it seems to you that you are always behind, that's a symptom of something that you need to adjust , not something that needs to be adjusted on kleptomancy.

TurnaboutSticksMar 27, 20182 votes

Of course, for what they lack in damage I should have (Not so much in sustain, Klepto can do that just fine.) So the early game would be the best time to strike on a kleptomancy user, but what's to stop them from playing safe all game and ending up ahead statistically?

But I'm not going to question the integrity of Klepto because it is a very niche mechanic that is used only be a few champions. It might not need a nerf and it very well could be my playstyle. Even if that it is the case, I still go 50/50 against users, I just feel like it encourages a jeopardizing form of play to the enjoyment of league.

Sona PingMar 27, 20181 votes

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Of course, for what they lack in damage I should have (Not so much in sustain, Klepto can do that just fine.) So the early game would be the best time to strike on a kleptomancy user, but what's to stop them from playing safe all game and ending up ahead statistically?

But I'm not going to question the integrity of Klepto because it is a very niche mechanic that is used only be a few champions. It might not need a nerf and it very well could be my playstyle. Even if that it is the case, I still go 50/50 against users, I just feel like it encourages a jeopardizing form of play to the enjoyment of league.

Because "playing safe" approach there also has issues. Him doing that can mean giving up gold, damage, pressure and so on that are used to gain advantages and put them at further disadvantages instead. But yeah, if someone chooses not to do that, that will happen, Going break even in a lane you have an advantage in against someone who scales will do that, and that amounts to a misplay on their part.