Advice for dealing with enemy super tank

SHOAnimal··1 votes·495 views

Hey all, I'm a relatively noobish player at LOL and was hoping for some advice. I recently had a game where my team played well, but our top Lane opponent got fed pretty well and got insanely tanky. What can be done when your team is simply out tanked? Damage was decent on our side cc was good but we couldn't kill garren and therefore couldn't win a team fight. Even dives to the back line we're getting shut down. Thanks in advance for your advice.

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Frightning3 votes

Well, to kill him in a fight, you need to counter-build his tankiness.

So that means your physical damage dealers need to get items such as item 3071 (AD fighters and their ilk) and item 3036 or item 3033 (marksman) to counter their armor. Basic attackers such as marksmen and champs like Irelia and XinZhao (Basic attack focused fighters) can get item 3153 to counter his high health (% dmg v high hp).

Your AP/magic damage dealers should be getting things like item 3135 and item 3151 (to counter high MR and high hp respectively).

Beyond that, Garen's lack of dashes means he's susceptible to being kited. That is, being slowed down/stopped by CC and kept from getting into range of your squishy damage dealers. To this end, using your CC abilities to keep him off of your squishies is vital to beating him in a fight. Moreover, there are some items that help with that, already mentioned item 3153 for the % dmg, but that also has an active slow. Garen break slows when he activates his Q, but that has a moderate cooldown, and he is completely vulnerable to being slowed anew as soon as he's used it. So other items, such as item 3143 and item 3146 also provide active slows, and there's item 3022 and item 3025 which provide basic attack and and spellblade passive born slows respectively.

Finally, in the event that he still managed to reach your important squishy damage dealers, active shields and heals from items can keep keep them (and the rest of your team) in fighting shape. Items such as item 3190, item 3107 and item 3222 all provide a way to heal allies or protect them damage with a shield (the first two are AoE, and so are quite helpful against Garen's AoE physical damage from his E).

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

Anti-tank items, clearly. It depends on if he built mainly HP, armor or MR

item 3036 Is the main item for ADCs to deal with high hp/armor tanks item 3153 for fighters and some ADCs, gives a nice slow and %HP damage. item 3151 item 3135 for mages or AP tanks (you should usually build void staff anyway, on almost any mage). item 3033 For tanks that heal constantly like Illaoi DrMundo Nasus

BLACK REALM GOD2 votes

you said garen right?

item 3165 item 3075 item 3033 item 3151 item 3153 item 3102

and it will likely take a collaborated team effort to stop him because garen is actually not a tank, but a fighter. he's just a really really good figher since he does true damage and has massive healing.

The Last Ballad1 votes

The term you are looking for is Juggernaut. No dash, high health, high damage.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

i wasnt looking for terms and you can keep your sub classes to yourself.

FioraWillCarry2 votes

The best way I found of dealing with Garen is focusing on killing his team first and turning on him last. The idea is that it takes forever to kill him and if you're caught doing that, the enemy team can off-load all their damage on your team while you guys are focusing him. You don't want that. That is what champions like Garen are good at....just a huge damage sponge to distract the whole team.

Another great counter is to pick Yi and get fed....gg Garen. Yi si by far the best tank killer in the game, second only to Vayne.

Kilanost1 votes

Just wait till next patch. Tanks won't exist then.

SHOAnimal1 votes

Thanks for the response guys. I unfortunately main Support so items won't do too much for me, but i can at least share knowledge.

Ralanr1 votes

Honestly if you don't have the damage or the CC to keep Garen busy while your team kills everyone else, it might be better to split push and rotate lanes.

Avoid fights where you have a disadvantage to win.

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