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Let's talk about Leona

Anchanel Korean··3 votes·1,079 views

Let's see what does leona have to offer:

  1. A cc combo that makes you a sitting duck for approximatly 5 seconds
  2. her W that gives her cca 200 mr and armor
  3. passive that makes everyone deal incredible damage to you
  4. Low cooldowns that makes you get stunned for 5 seconds every single time she sees you
  5. Incredible range on her ultimate that is very hard to dodge, unless you have a flash/dash

So let's put it all together, above me I see 5 things that would've been strong even if they were divided into 5 different champions and giving all those things to 1 champion is just ridiculous and should've never happened. Does leona need to get nerfed ? DEFINETLY Can you counter leona ? Get mercury treads (if you're an adc / apc and 1 enemy support forces you to buy mercury regardless of the rest having no cc is just a joke) Am I salty ? every single time I encounter leona How should Leona be changed then ? Cut the armor/mr on her W / higher cooldowns / make her kit a bit more complex

11 Comments

Envy Sin4 votes

Um at level 18 maybe, But early most people max w which means the stun combo is around a 12 second CD. That's a big opening.

Second you have to level q and e evenly if you want to COMBO

By the time you reach level 18 the passive is meh, It's mostly just used for trades in lane. Any kind of disengage/sustain support rapes her. Sure she's going to shit on whatever squishy you choose to play. That's her JOB. She's a HARD ENGAGE SUPPORT.

But hey i can do that too.

Let's look at nami.

She has

  • 2 knock ups. -possable 4 slows. -2 heals. + Damage all in one spell. -Speed boosts for days. Her cooldowns are quiet low.

So all damage you do in lane is negated, She has awesome engage, Disengage, Sustain, Poke. OP RITO PLEASE NERF

You're probably a ADC main, Supports have been hit with the nerf bait till they have blood coming from there ears. Get over yourself. Honestly supports should be getting BUFFED but that's never the case. Because if a support can go to ANY other lane that's not okay.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Not going to name her weaknesses and counterplay options? Of course she sounds like she needs a nerf when you state every good thing about her in beneficial situations...

Diostukos2 votes

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Not going to name her weaknesses and counterplay options? Of course she sounds like she needs a nerf when you state every good thing about her in beneficial situations...

She also has the highest pickrate/winrate out of any support?

insaiyanbacca1 votes

actually most supports have very similar winrates but the highest win/pick rate is actually blitzcrank with a win rate higher then leona's buy 0.05% that may not be much but it means leona is not the highest winrate he also has quite higher pickrate then her

Fitz n The Fool2 votes

Leona is PERFECTLY balanced. ALL supports should hope to be as balanced as Leona is. She has clear strengths (tanky, CC, engage) and clear weaknesses (immobile, all-in, susceptible to poke, no sustain). She has not been buffed or nerfed in like 2 years because she is just fine as she is. Please stop with the Leona nerf threads.

Der Lindwurm1 votes

I would say Leona's biggest weakness is that the tanky support role stops her from building the AP that would be necessary for her to become real threat in and of herself. She's got a lot of CC but her team needs to be good enough to take advantage of the opportunities she creates for them. She would be a terror if she built to do the hard fighting herself, but if she builds for a support role and her ADC is an idiot or her team just isn't making plays in general there's not much she can do.

TeemoJenkins1 votes

Leona is super immobile. Very slow move speed and her CD's are on a healthy clock. Her Counter play is her sensitivity to long ranged poke or a more tanky Support. Long ranged ADC's should not fear Leona as much as other supports...

Anchanel Korean1 votes

My point is that in teamfights Leona jumps on your adc / aps with ridiculous amount of CDR and tankyness and zones you for DAYS, you can try to kill her, but her W wont let you, you can try to get through her but before you do your frontline dies, because she will stun you for days ... so what the hell can you do against her I play mostly midlane and what I've stated above is what I see in every single game I play against / with leona in high diamond -> ridiculously simple champion with an outstanding power

Lord Dusteon1 votes

Leona has a max cc of 2.75 + a very brief root on E. Leona gains a max of 60 armor + Mr; to get 200 from W would require a bonus 1000 armor and magic resist. passive is a max 140 magic damage, flat, doing up to 560 if she and her allies play perfectly. R has a .625 second delay AND only has hard cc in the exact center.

In conclusion, hyperbole and salt.

Linna Excel1 votes

I kind of wish she were remolded more firmly into a hard engage bruiser instead of a support. I feel like her kit wants her to be more of a jungler like Vi, J4, or Sej. I really think her kit is withering away in bot.

darkdill1 votes

Leona has no retreat mechanics, and if she falls behind, she tends to stay behind.

Needs nerfs? NEVER!

ALL WHO THINK SHE NEEDS NERFS ARE HERETICS!!!!!

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