Long-ranged stun mages are the root of all problems.

Pinboard·10/30/2018, 7:04:35 AM·7 votes·2,715 views

Easy poke long-ranged mages with hard cc: Ahri Xerath Leblanc Anivia AurelionSol Cassiopeia Brand Orianna TwistedFate Zoe Heimerdinger Malzahar Grief short-range mid lane champions with no hard cc or no cc at all like these: Vladimir Ryze Viktor Teemo Then they go top and frustrate: Jax DrMundo Gangplank Maokai Nasus Malphite Maokai Riven MonkeyKing Singed Trundle Tryndamere Illaoi Kled Renekton Creating top lane to be primarily made up by: Darius Fiora Aatrox Irelia Sion Maybe it's time to actually evaluate as to why champions like Viktor go to toplane? Maybe because Leblanc can just free harass and kit proof unable to die to any short-ranged mage, let alone feel any threat? Even look at a potential lvl 2 gank by Twitch LeeSin with a red buff against the first column and second. By far the short-range champions are much susceptible to death at a lvl 2 gank, than their long-ranked counterparts.

Long-range stun mages create a homogeneous environment of likewise kits, forcing the rest to flee like refugees into toplane. Killing the toplane diversity. You think that's the only problem? We're just getting started. Assassins are always upheld by Riot and have to be buffed and bloated to be able to compete with long-range stun mages.

So for Assassins to compete with long-ranged stun mages, obscene items like these are created item 3163 item 3147 that cause extreme frustration for everyone. Then by accident creating a caste of Khazix Rengar Shaco assassin junglers that kill jungle diversity and promote burst metas.

Long-ranged stun mages are the root of all problems in this game. Why? Why are all of them designed to have an in-built stun? Why does Ahri only need to land her charm to execute an entire combo? Why does Leblanc have outrageous high burst damage, safety and hard CC? Why can't you use cleanse against's Malzahar's brainless ult + ignite combo? Why does Zoe exists? Why do all of them have a hard stun CC that can decide a game?

18 Comments

Nyarlathοtep10/30/2018, 8:55:51 AM8 votes

Em WHAT?

Easy poke long-ranged mages with hard cc:

Here you say long range mages with hard cc. The only long range here is xerath, and my boi pays his long range tenfold than most champs do. So dont you fucking dare call him problematic.

The rest of them are not long range. Even zoe, she isnt long range (or rather she is but situationally).

Grief short-range mid lane champions with no hard cc or no cc at all like these:

Both ryze and viktor have hard cc. Snare and stun respectively.

Then they go top and frustrate:

Jax is extremely dangerous for most mages. Mundo has a lot of sustain and bonus mr so mages cant kill him. Fuck gp. He is a cancer. Most mages cant kill him.
Maokai is a tank and loves enemies to proc his passive. Nasus has enough sustain to endure mage's poke and after 6 he can even run them down. Malp is a tank and with little ap he can burst down a mage. Fuck riven. Only mages that have point and click can actually kill her. Wukong lives to fight squishy targets. Singed is an abomination. Trundle is indeed weak against mages. However he does have the tool to reach one and kill him. Tryndamere after 6 he can towerdive them. Illaoi needs a single e and she will send the mage to the hospital. Kled after 6 can ulti them and force them to recall. Renekton lives to fight squishy targets.

So anyway tldr this post is a pure utter joke.

Step Sis Lux10/30/2018, 8:32:50 AM5 votes

Can i ask u how u came up with idea that Orianna has hard cc and Ryze Viktor doesnt

Warlord Rhinark10/30/2018, 7:50:08 AM4 votes

I mean, you have a point, but to me it seems like it's the long-ranged stun Mages with mobility that are the real problem here.

FCJAAAAGOOOO10/30/2018, 8:56:30 AM2 votes

Now imagine if they were gated by a resource. And let's not consider that being sarcasm a possibility anymore, please.

D4M2X010/30/2018, 8:30:45 AM2 votes

Jayce Kennen Heimerdinger Teemo are the real problems for toplane and should just be gutted/main reliant.

Twitch KogMaw Lulu and stealth 1 clickers and rageblade abusers are problems overall and should be kept gutted/main reliant.

7th Ward Lxrd10/30/2018, 1:19:14 PM2 votes

Logged in just to upvote. 100% on point, like at least fix bugged lux and morg q its been like that for past 7 years

Step Sis Lux10/30/2018, 9:00:23 AM1 votes

Most of them are also immobile and thats why they need cc, against champions with speed/dash or smth

DGOT1/28/2020, 8:57:43 AM1 votes

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Easy poke long-ranged mages with hard cc: Ahri Xerath Leblanc Anivia AurelionSol Cassiopeia Brand Orianna TwistedFate Zoe Heimerdinger Malzahar Grief short-range mid lane champions with no hard cc or no cc at all like these: Vladimir Ryze Viktor Teemo Then they go top and frustrate: Jax DrMundo Gangplank Maokai Nasus Malphite Maokai Riven MonkeyKing Singed Trundle Tryndamere Illaoi Kled Renekton Creating top lane to be primarily made up by: Darius Fiora Aatrox Irelia Sion Maybe it's time to actually evaluate as to why champions like Viktor go to toplane? Maybe because Leblanc can just free harass and kit proof unable to die to any short-ranged mage, let alone feel any threat? Even look at a potential lvl 2 gank by Twitch LeeSin with a red buff against the first column and second. By far the short-range champions are much susceptible to death at a lvl 2 gank, than their long-ranked counterparts.

Long-range stun mages create a homogeneous environment of likewise kits, forcing the rest to flee like refugees into toplane. Killing the toplane diversity. You think that's the only problem? We're just getting started. Assassins are always upheld by Riot and have to be buffed and bloated to be able to compete with long-range stun mages.

So for Assassins to compete with long-ranged stun mages, obscene items like these are created item 3163 item 3147 that cause extreme frustration for everyone. Then by accident creating a caste of Khazix Rengar Shaco assassin junglers that kill jungle diversity and promote burst metas.

Long-ranged stun mages are the root of all problems in this game. Why? Why are all of them designed to have an in-built stun? Why does Ahri only need to land her charm to execute an entire combo? Why does Leblanc have outrageous high burst damage, safety and hard CC? Why can't you use cleanse against's Malzahar's brainless ult + ignite combo? Why does Zoe exists? Why do all of them have a hard stun CC that can decide a game?

i am sorry all the mage mains say this isnt true when it is

Grimo1re10/30/2018, 1:59:49 PM1 votes

I'm sorry what is this some sort of joke??? Orianna has "hard CC" and is "easy?" Have you ever played her? While I admit she is not especially difficult to pick up and play somewhat okay at low elo her kit is insanely complex learning ball positioning how your ult works etc can take months to years to learn she isn't especially "long range" either she is outranged by many such as velkoz brand or even ahri she had 0 escape other than a slow and her ult which is hardly enough to deter mobility monsters such as irelia and leblanc. The real issue is mobility creep and riot overloading new and reworked champs kits. Just take a look at akali

Kugimiya10/30/2018, 2:17:38 PM1 votes

This idiotism isn't even funny! Lb (snare after a delay that's a skillshot and can be avoided by anyone having a dash!) and Ori (actually have 0 hard Cc only got a slow and her ultimate which are both avoidable and none of gave them are hard Cc) Viktor (instant slowfield that later becomes a stun) and Ryze (point and click snare) doesn't? On what planet where you born? Lb being a long range poke harasser? Are you stupid? She almost has to go into mele range to do dmg! You having shit reactions aren't a reasons to flame the champion! Ohh yeah and the lvl 2 twitch gank, what about looking at the scoreboard see ohh they have a twitch jungle and prepare he's just cheese! Toplane being made out of the champions you say, is such a hoax, none of them except Sion and Aatrox are currently being played that much toplane, Irelia is played more mid than top, Fiora is hardly played at all, Darius haven't seen him in ages, where are the champions that are actually being played in toplane? Such as Urgot, Has, Riven, Viktor! The only thing I would agree to is that Malza is a problem but that's cause I want people to play shit in mid that requires you to have skill, not just play something in order to not allow the opponent's midlander the opportunity to carry while you yourself just wait to be carried!

Revali10/30/2018, 7:54:53 AM1 votes

If this thread is mostly about viktor, it's due to his q damage and how strong his survivability is with its cd and the amount of Q's he can get off.