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Won 7 out of 10 Placement games and it put me in Bronze 5 with 0 LP. Wow talking about being upset!

oO5 Dynasty··3 votes·5,172 views

So im totally confused as to why Im in the lowest of Lows after winning 7 and losing only 3 games in placements. Like i almost won all 10 matches and i didn't even make silver. How can that be? Its like i Lost all 10 matches, and now i have to start from the bottom. Why did i even play the placements if i was gonna be put in the last spot, Bronze 5 . I am actually not happy with this at all, and the last 2 matches of my placements i got roles i didn't wanna play because riot switch the game back to the old Champion select and i wasn't bale to choose my role. So i was 7 and 1 going into the last 2 games and lost them with the help of not getting the role i wanted to play to help my team. This has to be a bug and would like to see if Riot game can look into fixing my Elo. I didnt even get Bronze 4 and i won 7 games.

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TNHA Baritone3 votes

That means your MMR b4 was Bronze level.

If you honestly find it outrageoud then you should find ease climbing ot at least averaging a decent kda.

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

I actually have no idea of what you was trying to say.

TNHA Baritone1 votes

Your MMR was Bronze level before the reset.

The reset decreases your MMR. So it put you even further into Bronze.

The number of provisional wins you get don't impact placement as much as your previous MMR

Many players are upset but if you are paired with the worst, then you're going to be against the worst so it should be somrwhat easy (not really) to carry yourself out. I did it two seasons ago

MVP x Legend3 votes

I dont believe this but who knows you may be right but i do believe that the way the guys playing ranked are all being send to bronze is very wrong if what you are saying is true and he was send to bronze due to his mmr then why make the guys do the 10 games in the 1st place why not look at their mmr and boom send them str8 to where they belong why make the players do all 10 games and trying very hard to win as much as they can to just be judge on their mmr and not their wins. just my opinion

TNHA Baritone1 votes

What I said has been confirmed by a Riot Arbiter.

Why the ten games? I believe they have some influence on your new rank as well, but judging on most peoples' results, it's not a high influence. For example if you were silver, you could be playing versus bronze level people during your 10 games so it would not be accurate to bump someone up because they won a lot. Likewise if you were playing vs a high elo player it wouldnt be fair to demote someone for losing those.

Plus 10 Games are less accurate than The number of games You'ved Played in a previous season.

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

Its a New Season, Fresh start! So basically its not a fresh start, they just say it is. I think the 10 Games are bull to be honest, because they are worrying about last season. Flawed System that doesn't give you a clean start with A ton of players that are better than their last season stats who are not given a fair fresh new season start.

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

Thank you for the response.

HigeR1 votes

Because ranked is a learning experience, if for some reason you manage to raise your MMR on those 10 games, you might actually increase your soft reset MMR and end up higher up. if you're placed in Bronze 5 with 0 LP... your MMR is probably one of the lowest ever and even if you manage to win games you don't seem to be able to do it either consistently or in a way that shows you got skill (Farm, objectives, warding, etc)

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

I main support so Warding no problem, and objectives no problem and support doesn't farm like the other roles. I will say this, if this wasn't a team game where your placed with 5 random people you don't know at all, I would be in diamond. Its actually hard to win when your team is fighting not pushing objectives and just flat our quit the game and start feeding because they are not scared of their accounts getting banned. So what are you left with? I play with total teamwork and im a student of the game. Watch at least 7 high rank matches a day and read all the statistics item builds etc. Plus i put what i learned into practice. Right now im 8 and 3 at the start of this season, and i Play my best every single game. So i do not feel like i should be in B5 after the 7 and 3 placements. Last season should be last season stats and we should have a Clear,clean,Brand New Fresh Start to 2016. Other than that its not a fair system especially with all the problems you run into with Toxic,Feeding,trolling gamers messing up games daily.

HigeR1 votes

answer me this and I might agree with the fact that the system is flawed, at the end of the game, what rating you get most of the time? A+?

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

So on average i get from S to a B. Depends on my role because their are some areas where i am weak. But i average a good rating per match and you very rarely see me doing bad in a match. I do not feed, I play the Vision Game average about 3 to 5 pink Wards a Game. I know how to Cs and Cs under Tower if needed. So i get the game, and I try to play each match to the best of my ability.

Wulfnschtein1 votes

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I will say this, if this wasn't a team game where your placed with 5 random people you don't know at all

Now you can with the new Dynamic Queue System, 5 Man Queues of your friends in Ranked 5's. If they ever put it back up.

Xilky2 votes

I know it's based on MMR and your elo and what not but still,

I was bronze 2 end of last season pre season fluctuated between bronze 1 and bronze 4... ended pre season in bronze 3 while in promo's to bronze 2... Placement matches 8 wins 2 losses Bronze 5....RiotPlz!

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

The System is just Flawed, I play way better than B5 and i showed it in Placements. Its a Team game and you shouldn't have to Carry yourself to Gold etc. The New Season should Start you over FRESH ON ALL SLATES! The only way you official know if that gamer really belongs in a higher elo. Just sucks that Riot will do nothing about this at all and now i have to deal with the worst of the worst.

Akaterina2 votes

I was silver 2 last season went 8/2 this season ended in b5 as well.

Aezanthya2 votes

I kinda see his frustration tho.

What's the point of making him do his placements matches if he's bound to be in bronze 5 anyway.... with those 7 wins he could have got to bronze 4.

smh

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

Yeah thats what i said, I didn't even get B4.

Power Cosmic2 votes

There are tons and tons of people in bronze, and feel how you do, but at least you are winning :-)

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

Thank you for the feedback. i try my best every game and i would like to be a very good player who makes it to the high levels. :)

VitaNovaGypsy1 votes

Happening to everyone. The number of games you won means absolutely nothing.

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

So why do we play the games then if they dont mean anything. Im confused!

TNHA Baritone1 votes

check my 3rd post

z14GaKI7TO1 votes

Well, seeing as you were Bronze 5 before the reset..

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

Being Bronze 5 before the rest shouldn't impact a Brand New Season in my opinion. Plus 90% of the games i did lose in rank is because of people Trolling going AFk and being toxic in almost every game. So I spent most of my time trying to help my team but ended up losing matches cause of that. Plus So many AFK games that your going against 5 people and u only have 4 and sometimes 3 on your team is really really really hard to over come also. I even Spoke to Riot Games Staff about that topic also. Basically what im trying to say is, the system is flawed in many ways and its designed to keep you down cause even after the fresh start(New Season Reset) They count last years statistics. Well That shouldn't be because players who play the game legit get stuck with the toxic trolls and cant get out. I started this New Season winning 7 games. I was 7 and 1 until they switch back to the old champion select. Then i was not able to get the role i main to help my team the best way i can. Basically what the new system is designed for. So I lost my last 2 games because again i had toxic trolls fighting over what role they wanted to play etc.... and now i find myself in B5. I think i have the right to be upset even if i was B5 at the end of last season.

Happy Jack1 votes

Diamond players end up in Gold on a regular basis.

Every year I place in Silver but climb to Plat pretty easy.

Win / Loss ratio DOES matter, but only to an extent.

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

So can you explain a bit more in what matters, cause your confusing me. If you win a game your points go up and you have a chance to climb. If you lose a game they drop you lower. So what else contributes to you moving up? If i play 10 games in a row and lose all 10 but never die one time in any of the games and average at least 6 kills. Do you mean ill still get points after the match that will have me move up. Please explain more in detail cause I've lost games in which i didn't die and i still has points taken away.

JustSir1 votes

I went 6-4 and was silver 4 a few days ago...placed in bronze 4...bullshit!

PhantomReality1 votes

My friend was b2 and won 7 of his games and got b5

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

Its not right!

darkmatchwaldo1 votes

But the real question is what was your MMR and rank before the reset? If you had a bronze 5 MMR it doesn't matter if you went 10/10 you're getting placed in b5.

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

Really, wow so does that seem fair to you tho. Like i know you don't work for Riot i just want your honest opinion.

darkmatchwaldo1 votes

Well yeah it does. If you ended last season on a bad note, you don't just get to start over.

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

Well i don't think i ended the season on a bad note to be honest. I did a lot of great things and my teammate honored me for them after matches. I just got my Teamwork Ribbon because even tho my teams may have lost the matches, I was trying my hardest to win during them. In Game chat and in my game play. So i feel like i ended the season very well. But I guess what it is that I am asking is, do you think or Like the MMR system, or should each season we start over Fresh! Fresh! to see where we land in the new season. I feel last years season/stats should not influence a brand new year. If its a NEW! Season, then it should really be New. Take Major League Sports in to count. Everybody Starts over 0/0/0 and you play to see who is Champions, and last year stats are look at as a reference but you always look to see what that team / player does in the new year. Last year statistics doesn't mean that gamer or team wont have a break out season. But to hold gamers back in LoL with this MMR system does not make sense to me. Also Very discouraging to a new LoL Player. I was getting ready for the 2016 season and it shows in my placement matches. I only lost 3 games and 2 of them was because of the switch back to the old champion select, where i got trolls and fights over where people were gonna lane. I basically lost those 2 matches before they even started, but i still tried my best.

darkmatchwaldo1 votes

I worded the bad note thing poorly. What i'm trying to say is if you were bronze last season, i don't think it's fair for you to get to start over with a blank slate. I think their matchmaking system could be better but i like the general idea of it. I guess we just disagree on that. I do think it should carry over season to season in SoloQ. It creates a continuous grind that can be worked on over the course of years. You say take Major League Sports in to count but there's a League of Legends equivalent that DOES start over 0/0/0...the LCS. There's no SoloQ in Baseball, Basketball, Football, Hockey, so i don't really think you can compare it like that. The other thing is the season literally just started, everyone has the ENTIRE year to climb and they're acting like it's the end of the world. If you got placed in bronze but you don't belong there you have all of 2016 to prove that.

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

Thanks for the reply, so riot uses the term Season, and in seasons things change. So i use the Major league Sports as 1 comparison, because LoL is built off seasons. It is a Video game that is actually used as a sport. So it doesn't matter if its LCS or Regular its still the same game. If you climb high in Regs/solo you will also get noticed and have a chance to get a deal with a LoL Team thats on the LCS. So If your put in a bad situation with a previous years statistics for what ever reason, the new season should be a clean slate. Progression should be laid out by your game play in the new season and not held back from the previous. Now if you are Bronze and your game play equal bronze, you should be in bronze. But let your abilities decide that, not old stats. Each year etc.... we as people grow and eventually we get better at things. So Progression should be allowed to be expressed in the right light. Not held back by a system, or lets just say your old statistics.

darkmatchwaldo2 votes

I can totally understand where you're coming from. I just feel like that would punish some of the people who do extremely well and have spent years grinding up the ladders, their progress would be all for nothing if they had to start over from scratch every season. I feel riot's current system is just outdated, i don't know how but i feel like they could come up with something that rewards players who climbed like bosses but not completely screw anyone who didn't get out of Silver. Wait...you're using well thought out opinions instead of pointless bickering.......are you pranking me? is this real life? Regardless of our thoughts on the matter i'm gonna add you and send you a game invite if i ever see you online cause you're a cool dude. Good luck this year my friend [slayer-jinx-wink]

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

Thank you sooooo much for the compliment, it really means a lot. I am always eager to meet and make new friends, so ill def game with you. Thank you for even considering that. Since this is the system we have to game in, I'm a do my best to climb and i do agree with what your saying about gamers losing years of progress. That is something i wouldn't want to happen, so a total reset isn't ideal.

HigeR1 votes

it's called soft reset for a reason, basically the system takes your current MMR and lowers it a bit in order to challenge you to get back where you were, since you ended up in bronze something last season it's only natural that you're gonna loose some ranks, hence, bronze 5.

This is not to mention that people on higher MMR will get set back even further, meaning that platinum 5 people is gonna probably end up in Gold 3 and Diamond 1 is probably gonna end up in Platinum 1.

Mak3Lov3N0tWar1 votes

ok so lets put this easiest way i can. You are bronze a BRONZE player if this is your 2nd or 3rd season it means you have not learn anything you still same sh@t as last year and year before so stop complaining how bad your teammates are the reason you lose is because by part is your fault. Stop watching players like trick gosu etc and think you can do the same you wont learn anything from them, their play style is only working out form them find duo partner and play adc/support together. learn support morgana/thresh/leo best carries in imo good luck bronzies I was plat 5 preseason i be gold 3 or 4 after placements for sure but that is fine its going to take me 20 wins to get back in plat i have learned how to support and carry out games form bot lane i recommend you to do the same

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

Well first off I will be reporting you and this post for cursing at me for no reason. This is a positive Forum where I'am expressing my feelings about my placement. I will like to say i am new to LoL and i do not have a full year under my belt of playing. I do not watch the youtubers and twitch.tv streamers you mentioned in your comment. I watch the high level rank matches on the LoL Application we all use. I study every game i watch from the start of the match until after when i can read all the stats. I even record the match using Skin Spot Light replays so i can go back and watch them. I also go back and watch my own games to see what i may have done wrong. Plus this gives me the option to see what my team is doing in the matches i play. Since most of the time im Support and helping my ADC, Mid Laner or jungler i might not see top lane. Plus i like to see what the other team did through out the match. So when i say I'm a student of the game, i really am. So for you to come on this forum and to disrespect me for absolutely no reason at all, i will be reporting you. I just have questions about my B5 placement, as i should since this is my first rest of a season . I did not know about MMR, but I honestly feel MMR shouldn't take over Placements. If it is a New season then everybody should start over clean and not be held back by last years statistics. I never complained about a teammate, I simply pointed about #Facts about gamers in this MOBA. This is an Huge issue that messes up tons of games daily in League of Legends. Trash Talking, Toxic Gamers, Raging Gamers, AFK Gamers, Trolls, and i can keep going. This is the reason why we have the Tribunal system because it exists. The problem is, even tho we have this system that was put into place by Riot Games, if a Gamer loses a match because of one of these gamers, then you are Punished because you lose Points after a match. Also if you have 1 or 2 gamers in your match doing these things, that means you have to step it up even more to try and win. Take risk which can lead to you dieing a lot more because your trying to be a team player with making plays to win the game. I actually have hundreds of games record as evidence of what i am saying. Plus i have my teamwork ribbon because i am a total team player who is trying to do things the right way in League of Legends. I would like it if you not reply with anymore disrespectful post and i will be reporting this to Riot Games. Thank you!

Mak3Lov3N0tWar1 votes

first of all you can report me as much as you can wont bother me if you just started playing league for fun i can tell you now that you dont have fun at all , so what you do you cry out on forums how bad your placements went how unfair this is. If you think you can fight everyone here or in game you wrong its pointless. Did you see any posts from plat and up crying about it ? you are where you belong this is how it works bud. If you expected to be higher sorry we all started from bronze or silver and we climb season after season. So dont come out with tears here thinking its gonna change something riot put in bronze not me not other people you wanna be good at it ? improve dont cry. if this is all true what you wrote you should be gold in no time. GL

oO5 Dynasty1 votes

Reported! Harassing!

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