Nasus needs a nerf

BIips and Chitz·May 3, 2015·6 votes·1,331 views

i feel like he should at least cap out at 500 stacks, its just free ranked wins when people play him.

23 Comments

BeatzBoyFTWMay 3, 20153 votes

Darius : Yet another fool who has forgotten that I exist.

Absinthe DrinkerMay 3, 20151 votes

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: Yet another fool who has forgotten that I exist.

i always wreck darius as nasus lool bait his Q, it's auto push farm under tower, or just W him when your jungler comes to gank + outscales him, after 250 stacks can fight him

BeatzBoyFTWMay 3, 20152 votes

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i always wreck darius as nasus lool bait his Q, it's auto push farm under tower, or just W him when your jungler comes to gank + outscales him, after 250 stacks can fight him

Judging by your current elo, you must have been fighting the wrong Darius. Come to Silver elo at least, the Darius mains there are a bit wiser.

EbonRypperMay 3, 20153 votes

Lmfao Nasus needs a nerf?? You must not be very good then. His early game is abysmal AF when it comes to playing as a poke/harass or kill playstyle. He HAS to farm with Siphoning Strike (Q) to be relevant in the mid-late in general, and actually in a way needs CDR big time. Any lane or jungle pressure and he gets pushed out easily. Hell friggin Fiora will have an easy time winning lane against him no sweat from the jump.

His CC is meh level at best, His sustain doesn't scale well til he builds item 3065 if doing well, he has no gap close, and his durability isn't the best. He's also HIGHLY IMMOBILE, and can't run from fights, nor does he really initiate them much good at all either. You must not play against any good top laners that run Hecarim JarvanIV Irelia Malphite Sion XinZhao MonkeyKing Darius then if you think Nasus needs a nerf. The guys I mentioned in the right hands will make you want to uninstall the game if you feel Nasus of all champs needs a nerf.

hh the thinkerMay 3, 20152 votes

his win rank isn't even 60% which means he's not completely op like you may think.

GodhriMay 3, 20152 votes

Viktor Malzahar That's because people don't pick champions that can kick his ass.

Only Play DariusMay 3, 20152 votes

Lol no he doesn't.

STRIDER98May 3, 20152 votes

How to play vs nasus guide: presure him early cause he is freaking useles, he cant return the dmg because he is using his q for farming and he isnt even tanky. This guide 100% works, if by any reason you were not in the lane vs nasus and he got alot of staks and items try KITING it helps im honest. Thats it for this guide hope you enjoyed it leave a comment and a like.

Toothierosprey3May 3, 20151 votes

I've lost early 1v1's to a Nasus because of his armor deduction. He's not too bad early if your only source of damage is auto attacking. I think if they do nerf Nasus they should nerf his early game w.

STRIDER98May 3, 20152 votes

If nasus spends his mana and q on you you are wining the lane to be honest cause he is not stacking, Also his w has a long cast time if you look at his char you can prettymuch predict it and avoid it almost completly, aswell most toplaners outdamage him flat on and anyway just stand near the almost dead creep, he uses his q you drop his healt for atleast 30% (if you are a riven main like me you can zone nasus prettymuch level 1 so he has 2 options 1. Stay at tower and hope to farm (you just kill him if he is that stupid honestly) and 2. go to base and back (in wich case you just push hard and he loses farm) also any ranged hero is a freewon lane vs him especially SATAN (teemo) bcs of the blind)

Toothierosprey3May 3, 20151 votes

I'm not saying he's good early game and that he'll win lane against one of his counters, I'm just saying people sometimes underestimate his auto attack resets, attack speed slow, and armor deduction. Taking away 20 armor and slowing for 47% ms and 23.5% attack speed isn't very bad for level 3. I once played with a Nasus who wasn't concerned with stacking, and he had some pretty good early game kill potential.

LilxPaprikaMay 3, 20151 votes

Cap at permanent 500stacks then if he dies make stack behave like mejais stack and lose half. Soif u die at 600 stack you lose only 50.

I actually think it would be a buff to nasus players since they might bother participating in team fights and putting those 500 stacks to good use. Instead of afk top

A nasus player might also use q to trade with in lane this way since he won't feel as obligated to farm.

To make him relevant just give him a slight nudge elsewhere, maybe more armor health regen early but scales less late.

lB2kGRlc8yMay 3, 20152 votes

Least informed statement I've heard in a while. Play against living humans next time you try him out and see how completely ridiculous what you just said was.

LilxPaprikaMay 3, 20151 votes

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Least informed statement I've heard in a while. Play against living humans next time you try him out and see how completely ridiculous what you just said was.

Please substantiate give me numbers. That's a non sequitur statement, doesn't in anyway touch upon any of what I wrote. Inform yourself on the Socratic method and logical fallacies than get back to me. Your no show, inability to pinpoint what is wrong with what i wrote indicates to me that you defect.

Isn't it true that being less concerned with stacks and saving q for farm will help you use it to harass instead? If need be you could increase its base DMG by like 10 points or just its first 3 levels. Such that its more viable to harass with early. Its also an auto reset which makes it pretty viable for trades. You'll still be stacking of course but when someone does decide to trade with you you'll be ready.

If, as you all seem to point out, his early game is so awful, wouldn't a bit more health regen and armor early help? My experience with a lot of nasus players is lack of coordination with team. I don't mind if they do a good job of split pushing applying pressure going for the gates like sirchez trick 2g do. Its when they are practically freezing a lane just farming stack letting enemy top player roam.

lB2kGRlc8yMay 3, 20151 votes

You're talking about reworking nasus to force him into team fighting where his kit is rather sub-par simply because of how bad nasus players play him. Reworking his Q to be better "poke" doesn't make a lot of sense, being that its still a melee ability, his kit is based around the "don't let him get into melee with you" mentality, so there won't be any ability to poke unless he gains mobility. You also disregard the fact that even a 2k stacked nasus can't do squat if he never gets into melee with you, and is in fact only problematic when people ignore him. Nasus builds powerful defensive items in his core build, so buffing his defensive stats would launch him into full tank class durability. Basically, the only players I've ever seen who have a problem with nasus are the ones who can't be bothered to play to counter him, much like how people complain about Blitz being OP, and at the same time have no wards on the map. In summary, the reason your suggestions are bad, are because he would need a full scale rework in order to be able to put those abilities to work.

Garens HaremMay 3, 20151 votes

2/10 bait

SEKAIMay 3, 20151 votes

If you let him farm beyond 500 stacks without at least putting some effort in stopping him during his lvl 1-5 and pressuring on either his lane or his teammates then you should be paying for your own funeral.

lB2kGRlc8yMay 3, 20151 votes

I swear to god, Ashe can fuckin counter this guy, he has no gap closers besides standard movement, and he's unable to trade in his lane unless he has stacks on his Q. People just don't wan't to deviate from their standard play styles to counter him, and thus he gets beefy.

Absinthe DrinkerMay 3, 20151 votes

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I swear to god, Ashe can fuckin counter this guy, he has no gap closers besides standard movement, and he's unable to trade in his lane unless he has stacks on his Q. People just don't wan't to deviate from their standard play styles to counter him, and thus he gets beefy.

if nasus took ghost no chance that ashe can counter him, if he uses W on her it's over btw on top lane she can counter him like any other ranged cancer, expecialy gnar

lB2kGRlc8yMay 3, 20151 votes

Did you call Ashe cancer? I'm not certain how to deal with such lunacy, are you perhaps a troll? Regardless, as for taking ghost to counter ashe, ashe can also take ghost. Nasus pops ghost he has to all in, ashe can use volley and her ult to wait out the duration, then go back to poking him with volley.

ZouaveMay 3, 20151 votes

nasus is not op. he only good against ad carry because of his as reduction. But against mage he's bad. melee champ without dash are all bad btw and were never viable btw.

Gym Leader YakiMay 3, 20151 votes

500 stacks is nothing ... Personally, I've always been cursed when playing against a Nasus . I've always had lots of trouble laning against him. Why? I have no idea. So naturally, I wouldn't be closed to him getting nerfed. Not his early game of coursed, that's my problem, but his late game. His ability to build 6 tank items and still 2 shot the ADC is just ridiculous. Something about how his stacks work later in the game should be done, yes. He's not OP, but he's damn strong that I can tell you..

SalidfingersMay 3, 20151 votes

I had a friend with the same mentality. He used to main nasus top when he gets the chance and always mentioned he is god teir carry while i told him nasus sucks.

Then he duo q'd with me for about a 100 games. I either go top or bot and every game we fought a nasus it was a free win.

I go top i pick Olaf/Akali/or Gnar and bullied or killed nasus outright

I main support zyra so when a 1000 stack nasus enters the game i lock him down with a snare, popup, slow(queen), and another snare. Nasus is locked down so hard he is unable to wipe his own fed ass. This is over dozens of nasus's with the same results.

Kinda sucks for him when he is not around most team fights to build stacks and then when he does show up he is not even a factor.

Then my friend realized that nasus is really not that good.