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Teemo - theme vs gameplay

Wisniaksiadz·3/29/2015, 4:51:04 PM·14 votes·2,453 views

So. Not so long ago changes towards Nidalee (and jungle items) make her great jungler. And this is fine, as she is a sneaky hunter, that traverses jungle and catch these careless victims. It's how she appear in her lore, and it's how she is in game.

I readed some discussions about junglers, tanks, and some1 posted nice idea for teemo. So. Acording to lore, he is a little scout, that is way ahead of his team, gather informations, sabotages his enemy. But currently in game he is more like ap magish, defensish, kinda nothing concrete. Blind and back, put maybe some autos and hope some1 step into mushrom. Either you force enemy back to base, or you fail early and your shrooms are useless. It's kinda boring playstyle, at least in my opinion.

And here is some ideas to make him more viable. Teemo main position should lie in the jungle. He gather his poison there, his real alterego show there. He thematically should be here TL:DR main change is for W and we start here W Active: Teemo change his weapon to either his dartgun or knife. Dartgun - Gain 550 range. while he is back to the opponent, he gain movementspeed buff knife - Lose range. Gain 20 flat movementspeed(counterstrike players will understand), 20% attack speed. while facing opponent he gain movementspeed buff PassiveW: Killing big monsters (in the jungle) give him a mushroom

Passive: Standing in 1 postioin give teemo a stealth. It refresh as teemo is standing and last 1.5s after he moves or until he do action. Q Dartgun - no changes, maybe make it on hit Knife - Blind every1 around him and proc passive.

E Remains as it is with 1 change - attacking monsters cause double the dmg. (numbers are needed to adjust)

R less dmg, more shrooms, teemo gain movementspeed buff towards poisoned target (stacking with W).

That changes would shift Teemo more in to jungle position, where he should be (according to lore). He would become great sneaky counterjungle scout, that appear from nowhere, kill and disappear.

What you think about changes like these?.

27 Comments

Saianna3/29/2015, 5:56:08 PM3 votes

Don't even try to rework teemo.

Just stop it.

khorney3/29/2015, 4:53:32 PM3 votes

Teemo is fine the way he is . if nothing else extend his aa and q range and some ad scaling on his q would be nice

Narasimha3/29/2015, 6:07:10 PM2 votes

I.. don't think a knife would work well with Teemo. The last thing a tiny yordle wants is to have to get up close and personal with an opponent who is most likely twice their size.

Gigahappytown3/29/2015, 6:16:52 PM2 votes

Oh This is a cool idea they should definatly rework him into a jungler with a kit similair to nidalees in sense that he will hunt down players

Also these people who just say "no" without discussing why are the scum of this game and their opinion should be taken with a grain of salt

Chespin20133/29/2015, 5:56:21 PM2 votes

teemo just needs a rework in general he just can't carry jack and is of little to no use of helpfulness to his team

Kitten of Evil3/30/2015, 12:02:39 AM1 votes

Uh did we learn nothing from Jungle Nidalee?

UPfreely3/30/2015, 4:28:45 AM1 votes

honestly i feel like teemo would work great if you swapped his ult and W, obviously you would need to tweak the numbers.

Sachabot6/20/2015, 4:10:04 PM1 votes

Personally, I like most of them. I pushed for a thematic-centered Teemo rework a while back, but it was downvoted into oblivion. I'm not a fan of his standing-still passive, it seems counter-productive to roaming and gathering intelligence.

Wisniaksiadz6/27/2015, 6:13:00 PM1 votes

bump

Wisniaksiadz3/29/2015, 5:44:24 PM1 votes

anymore thoughts?

Doctor Dyment3/29/2015, 9:07:53 PM1 votes

Stop trying to put Teemo in the jungle. It really isn't as good as an idea as you think. Good on paper sure, but put into practice it is not. Omega Squad Teemo is the guerrilla warfare/commando type skin that shows what Teemo would be like more realistically. But... no. Teemo belongs outside of the jungle, not inside of it. Just because he is a Scout doesn't mean he has to be a jungler. I just... don't like the idea. And apparently many also agree with me.

Arcade Andrew3/29/2015, 10:11:08 PM1 votes

I would love to read this, but you cant English it hurts my brain

protip: if english isnt your main language dont post in english/warn us before you post something as grammatically terrible as this is to read

Llanite3/29/2015, 10:49:06 PM1 votes

That'd require new animation (knife part) which I don't see Riot would be doing anytime soon, especially just after releasing a legendary skin (look at udyr).

Teemo only needs a small rework. His E needs to stack (like twitch/GP). his Q should become a slow, scaling with E stack, his W active needs to provide full 52% speed at lvl 1, further leveling will increase passive speed and reduce CD. Shroom should either have higher CD and DMG, or less CD and less dmg, right now it accomplishes nothing, coverage isn't enough while dmg is lacking.

Passive should provide speed towards those who he already poisoned (E/Shroom)

Should have better AA range as well.