Gotta love that Zed bug fix!

Icyy··28 votes·2,089 views

I'm a Zed main (obviously), D5 if anyone cares, and just wanted to reiterate the frustration and confusion us Zed players have been dealing with since 5.22. I feel like noone at riot plays zed. I can understand why it can be frustrating playing against such a mobile and deadly assassin but lets be realistic, he's in a healthy place, or was until his early, mid, and late game potential took a huge blow from that 'bug fix'. As a squishy melee midlaner relying solely on skillshots and a relatively low damage aoe ability, (as stated in that front page reddit post) having to wait a whole extra second to send out living shadows shuriken is just ridiculous. In higher elos its so easy for the enemy to take a step back and prepare their sidestep as soon as they see the shadow coming, making it difficult to get any poke off. Not to mention fact that that combo expends half of his energy bar and puts his only mobility spell on cooldown. Especially with the ADC changes coming in was this really the best time to decide to nerf zed even more? I don't know what Riot's stance is on this zed change but please please please reconsider, or give him power elsewhere, because this change fucking shit on so much of his potential through the game, making it harder to have a decent laning phase and to clean up kills. If I didn't love everything about Zed I would definitely not continue to play him. Atleast observe the winrates over the next few weeks and see how much lower they get cause I gurantee they will drop atleast a few percentages.

24 Comments

precambria10 votes

Wait so you can dodge his "skillshot" now, the horror.

Icyy5 votes

Dodging his shadow Q has never been that challenging, the change has only made it even easier to do so. It's not like his issue was that it was too easy to hit is W Q combo

Hyrum Graff6 votes

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Dodging his shadow Q has never been that challenging, the change has only made it even easier to do so. It's not like his issue was that it was too easy to hit is W Q combo

Actually, that was one of the biggest issues I had facing zed.

I'm 100% okay with Riot buffing Zed to make up for the bug fix. I'd rather have his power somewhere that's more interesting.

Thandorre4 votes

I feel as bad for you as people felt when Fizz got nerfed

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

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I feel as bad for you as people felt when Fizz got nerfed

Nice joke, m8

Martyrofsand4 votes

So a manaless champ with unlimited poke actually has a window of chance to dodge his skillshots that come from halfway across the lane. So horrible, I mean its not like such isn't included on a champ with insane mobility, insane damage, amazing wave clear and ability to make use of life steal.

For all Zed has he can afford to lose highly consistent poke, that left little chance for the opponent to respond.

North Weast3 votes

I don't play zed but that nerf did seem a bit nonsensical. I agree it has gotten much easier to play against him especially in the 1v1

Edit: grammar

Handin Out Naps2 votes

Yeah ik how you feel if I didn't absolutely love Zed I would stop playing him too. He is just so fucking clunky right now it feels like Im just lagging when I play him.

RIP in 3212 votes

I'm super disappointed with riot's inability to balance out champs according to their weaknesses and strengths, it's getting kind of frustrating and this pre-season all together has been nothing but stupidity and disappointment. What's even more disappointing is the fact that it's not even labelled as a Nerf, instead they say it's a ''bug''.

For a champ with a 44% win rate and 15% popularity at the moment not to mention core item Nerfs in the pre-season as well as a lot of champ counters and item counters, I think riot is doing a crappy job at maintaining balance.

http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/zed

A5W9VPIhgQ2 votes

at least your main wasn't gutted and left to dry Akali this is just me qq :<

Redcontroller1 votes

Will they really revert a bug fix tho?

TheSlogs3 votes

This isn't a bug fix. They had absolutely no reason to label it as such. They had intentionally made him to work like that, and now they are changing it.

Zethuriah Fox1 votes

Aww poor baby, as an azir main, I'm sure azir can send zed some quilted tissues to wipe the tears. Azir has plenty left over after being gutted for "no counterplay©".

NemeBro1 votes

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Aww poor baby, as an azir main, I'm sure azir can send zed some quilted tissues to wipe the tears. Azir has plenty left over after being gutted for "no counterplay©".

Yeah he does, considering he was still a prominent pick in the LCS.

Compared to Zed who was picked like twice and lost both games.

Zed didn't need this nerf (or at least, he should be given some compensation, if you think Zed's ability to cancel his Q with his W was a bug).

Zethuriah Fox2 votes

If he can do that bug, then azir should be allowed the exact same bug. Instant Q without having to wait for the W animation to complete. That is exactly what zed was allowed for so long. Hell that might give azir a higher win rate than 36% considering all the nerfs with little to no compensation.

J Eevo1 votes

if anyone cared, I'd reiterate the frustration and confusion us Ap mid players have been dealing with since Zed came out...

AquariusGine1 votes

I'm glad Zed got this bug fixed (Mana mage main)

But I do agree he needs a compensation elsewhere

Dirty Roleplayer1 votes

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

Gubaguy1 votes

wait, so now zed can nuke me with 0 counterplay from accross the lane? Now i have time to dodge, i can see the incoming damage and can react? Well thats just not fuckign fair, clearly zed shoudl be allowd to jsut nuke anyoen he wants without counterplay.

Canadian Thresh1 votes

Meet Zeds counterplay item 3157 item 3139 item 3140

Gubaguy1 votes

thats like saying vlad counters zed becuase of his W. Just becuase it can stop his ult doesnt mean its counetrplay. Ive played gaems with zed where ive had zhonuyas, or was playign vlad and i stopepd his ult, only to get nuked by his shadows the SECOND it ended. And ive had games where ive been forced to hourglass his shadows and got nuked by his ult. Being abel to do instant unstoppabel, nearly undodgable damage is bullshit no matter how you slice it.

Canadian Thresh1 votes

first of all learn to spell please. and secondly don't get caught out by him then? those items are for when he jumps on you in team fights you can neglect the damage while your team pushes him off. its simple, just be smarter

Gubaguy1 votes

oh im sorry, is my minor dyslexia a fucking problem for you? and having 1 item to negate his ult in a teamfight doesnt help if hes gotten fed in laning due to his insane, undodgable damage.

Canadian Thresh1 votes

then your team is bad at team fighting, if they cant shut him down when hes in between all 5 of you then he deserves to win that fight

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