>S- impossible on Kog Maw

KneelForMaster··2 votes·3,040 views

I am posting this out of confusion and frustration with the mastery ranking system. I can only assume there are some metrics I am not aware of which are making it impossible for me to get S and S+ ranking. When I play a match and go 20/4 in 20 minutes, four more kills than the entire enemy team, secure the only dragon gotten in that game, force the enemy surrender... and only get an A+ I get seriously confused and frustrated. Kog Maw's global stats average 8.5 / 7.0 / 7.4 In jungle 9.5 / 7.1 / 6.9 In mid 8.0 / 6.4 / 7.1 In top 8.7 / 8.3 / 6.0

6/2/4 130 CS Mid lane VICTORY S@20 = A 24/7/9 227 CS Top lane VICTORY = S- 20/4/2 77 CS Jungle VICTORY S@20 = A+ 23/10/9 185 CS Jungle VICTORY = A 14/4/5 129 CS Jungle VICTORY = A

Performance relative to my team AND enemy team have no relevance. It doesn't matter if I put the entire team on my back from top. Let me re-iterate this for you. Several games with over double the average kills and half deaths. JUNGLE kog maw. A kill a minute. Only four deaths. A+. There is no room for improvement here. Literally the only way for me to score higher would be if the enemy team charged at me one by one without attacking for repeated penta kills.

Riot, you either need to fix your system such that extreme performance in one category can make up for another, or make the metrics of performance public. If you genuinely believe that those metrics are what makes a player good, then it can only be a positive thing to release and let people know how to be "good" players.

Edit: The game after I posted this, I played mid kog jog and got a worse score. I got an S rank. My first mastery 7 token. I looked at my after game score, and my final conclusion is that wards placed and towers taken are a very large impact, especially compared to dragons. 33 minute match - 20 minute match

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Scores side by side. In the jungle game, I was responsible and local to tower destructions, but did not get the last hit, but did take a dragon. In the second game, I got the last hit on two towers, took no dragons, and placed 20% more wards per minute. Despite greater deaths, less kills, less damage to enemies per minute, less kill participation, and less CS per minute, it was a 2 rank difference to get two towers and place 20% more wards.

13 Comments

aaronautumn2 votes

way too many deaths

Milodic Mellodi1 votes

To be fair, I've had a game as Tristana where I went 24/6 and got S-. It was in Normals, but still.

Cucked Virjhïn2 votes

lol I have an S+ on kogmaw 15-4-6 170 cs 25 mins

zlumpy1 votes

It seems like longer games also lead to higher grades for me when I am doing well. Maybe you were on the right track but your game ended too fast.

Mistress Shyvana1 votes

For the higher played, more kill oriented champs. Need no more than 1 or 2 deaths. 3 deaths. Sorry A+ bby and I'm not joking.

KneelForMaster1 votes

Kog Maw only has a 2.1% play rate. The only ADC's played less than him are Corki (2%) and Urgot (0.7%).

Mistress Shyvana1 votes

Exactly. And you see the few that do play him are making the bar STUPID high.

You showed yourself your average games are pretty darn good.

Just think about yasuo. I see so many R7 yasuo and most games a yasuo goes positive he gets at least an S- Why? Because so many play him and do terrible his bar is so low that goin positive in RITO's eyes is a feat.

KneelForMaster1 votes

Oh. You meant less played. I see. Yes, that does make sense. And yeah. Pretty high bar, specifically for Kog'Maw..., but now I know the big metrics I've been missing. Last hitting towers and placing wards are worth more than kills apparently.

DREADN0UGHT1 votes

It makes sense, but its still stupid and frustrating.

aggron881 votes

I usually pick kog and for getting an S- you need to die less. One time i had 22/9/11 two dragons and one baron 150 farm and i got A- and another time i had 11/2/4 and i got S-.

(KogMaw + item 3124 = DOUBLE KILL)

SeinerMutterrr1 votes

I know the feeling, I'm trying the same and i just had a game 14/1/6 on like 20 min and forced team to surrender, and didnt even got the s-

TeemoXNidalee1 votes

Pick him jungle top or mid and you will get a much better score with those same stats.

ZeWick1 votes

From my experience I've seen that Kog'Maw won't snowball as fast like a top- or midlaner, as they also take damage dealt, vision score and all those other stats into account. And even though a Kog has 2 kills before 15 min, he still will end up farming until he has approx. 3 items complete, whereas a toplaner can go on a rampage after having just 2 kills, which makes it really hard for a kog to get an S rank in 20 min games

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