@RIOT, you don't do enough to protect your players!

Orian Grao··4 votes·665 views

obs: To those down-voting, this is supposed to be a discussion, so please don't down-vote just because you don't agree, take a moment and respond, explain why you don't agree, don't just try silencing the post.

So, I've playing this game for several years now and I've watched as the game progresses to punish those that afk during a game and yet do absolutely nothing to punish those that are toxic, that intentionally feed, that autolock... The fact the lock button still exits in solo queue puzzles me as it only ever cause problems. In maybe every 50 games all 10 players lock and thus you gain a few seconds, but in every five games you get someone that was left with support and doesn't want to do it, so what this person does? They autolock... Now, RIOT will say that that is fine, but I am sorry, that starts the game at a horrible pace already, it starts with at least one other player extremely irritated. If that autolocker proceeds to feed as it seems to have at least 80 % of the time, the entire team gets irritated. This is a game, it is supposed to be fun and it is RIOT's responsibility to keep the game fun, to protect those players that have fun by playing the game instead of by screwing the game. Instead what you get is punishment for AFKing, but nothing is done to those that feed, troll, etc. I understand it is harder to supervise that, that you can't atomate the process, but it is still RIOTs obligation to protect the players. Twice I got the AFK Queue restriction because I AFKed and I am fine with that, I shouldn't AFK, I understand that. What I would like to know though, is that those that caused me to AFK were punished in anyway, and in all honesty, I don't think they are. I don't think RIOT cares as long as enough people keep playing, be them troll or not.

TLDR, RIOT... Show us that you do punish those summoners that do other things besides AFKing, because all we know currently is that you have your automated system and that only flags those that use bad words and those that leave... It is not enough. People leave during a game if the game turns from being fun to being stressful and while I put part of the blame for the players behavior in game on the players, I also put part of that blame on a company that is not transparent enough on how they work to punish those other improper behavior. Unless nothing is exactly what you do.

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Grashnim4 votes

Riot only punishes for Racism or Death Threats. Otherwise, honestly, I don't think fucks are given.

I think they took away the tribunal so we will never really know what's punishable anymore. I've noticed the game is a lot more toxic since the removal of the tribunal system.

Must be cash reasons behind it. Pretty soon I bet they start letting unlock your banned account for 50$.

Orian Grao3 votes

And that is a problem, the Tribunal being removed has caused the community in game to worsen ten fold. And that is why I am making this post... I want to see if a RIOTer comes and discuss this with us... If they don't well, then they clearly don't care.

I just came out of a match in which we had an ok team comp, everyone was talking in chat while building the team... Everything seemed to be going well... Until on the last second the person who was left to play support changed his champion to Master YI and said "I am double jungling. hahaha."

The guy (Kvng Jon - NA Server) invaded early, died to a Leblanc and from there, all he did for at least 10 minutes was feed. He ended up with a score of 20 deaths and 80 CS at 41 minutes. Now, you ask why we didn't surrender? We tried, but the troll of course said no to surrender and the Ezreal that had ended up alone in the bot lane said no as well just so we all could be as irritated as he was.

My question to RIOT is this, how is that supposed to be fun? How are we supposed to have fun in a situation like that? If your answer, dear RIOTer is to say this game was an exception, I am sorry, it isn't an exception, I played several games this last three days and I had 5 autolockers that went on to cause problems in the game. Do you guys care? I don't think you do.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Riot only punishes for Racism or Death Threats. Otherwise, honestly, I don't think fucks are given.

That statement is flagrantly wrong.

In fact your entire comment is.

Orian Grao1 votes

Agreed. I am hoping (though from people downvoting without leaving comments) this post gets enough traction to draw a RIoter's attention so we can get a few answers. It is wrong that only certain behaviors are punished even though they tell us to report a lot more than that.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

You didn't get what my comment said. Riot does punish for more then that

Orian Grao1 votes

Do you really think so? It seems they only ever punish those that AFK and those that use certain words in chat, functions they can just program a bot to do. Ever since the Tribunal was brought down it is all done by computers and those can't tell if a person is just a horrible player or an intentional feeder, they can't tell if a person is trolling or if they just don't understand the game. You need a human for that and currently, all we have protecting the community are bots.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Except the system can. You don't see people complaining about getting banned for int feeding or trolling because they know what they were doing wrong -- but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Just recently in fact, a guy was here on the boards saying that he didn't understand why he was banned for int feeding.

Here's the reason why people think that they don't: even with an actual person, it can be hard in a lot of situations to tell if someone is actually trolling or int feeding. That's why Riot gives them the benefit of the doubt and takes more time before they level a punishment. However, if a pattern emerges, then a punishment will be dealt

Orian Grao1 votes

Then RIOT needs to be more vocal on how they punish and that they actually punish such behaviors. What discourage bad behavior isn't punishment you get after trolling 50 games, but knowing that others are getting punished.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

They have frequently said that this is the way it works (should be in the FAQ for the instant feedback system on the riot support website). If that wasn't enough, there are plenty of people who have explained it here on the forums whenever people bring it up, both Arbiters and just regular people like myself.

Grashnim2 votes

Yes, they do. Of course they do, but compared to how it used to be, there is almost nothing punished.

Of course, no one will know for sure anymore, because they removed the tribunal. I used to see what people got banned for etc... Now it's just "faith" they are doing a good job.

Which is the problem. I don't take much on faith.

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