The position of tanks vs damage in the game

Murasaki No Bara··4 votes·2,652 views

So I've been playing for like 3 seasons now and when i started i thought tanks were a little hard to deal with my friends at the time told me that they would get nerfed and i have still not lived to see this magical day come to existence i play assassins and bruisers and adc basically anything none tank so yes i may have some personal bais but honestly i play these because honestly when i play tanks i usually find the game is a little too easy or rather its unfair to who im fighting i tried the broken stuff i really have but after testing them for a few games i never did it again it was too unfair i played the tank ekko i played the klepto viktor i played the tank fizz the int sion i've tested them all and god as my witness after every time i said "this is not fair" and didnt go back to it .Went off tangent for a sec there but my point is when are we going to see the day when it doesnt take 5 people to deal with 1 person building tanky why do i play something like say riven vs a sion and he has more AD,HP,Armor,shield,and wave clear than me because he built tank and a tiamat while i built armor pen like black cleaver, lethality, or even as far as a last whisper, i know alot of people will tell me things like i'm mad or i dont understand how the game works and so on and so fourth im no lcs player but i think i know at least a little bit of what im doing after this long.To anyone who has taken the time to reads this thanks . im just tired of things like me doing my combos 5-15 rotations on a tank while dodging everything but the second 1 thing hits you they kill you with minimal effort or having in the one in a million chance per say you beat something like sion in lane and he just ignores you and walks to kill your tower while you cant do anything but have your whole team try to help you stop him,i know im not important enough as one person for a rioter to talk to me but even a couple general posts here would be nice why cant we do something about all these tanks not even asking for damage dealer buffs cause that would make adc life even harder .The assasin burst was nerfed the non tanky bruisers are basically borderline useless these days ,the shielding supports were nerfed if evferything else in the game was a problem before why cant we do something about all these tanks . just a couple examples of some of these things cho gath r doing so much tru damage to the point he can 1 shot basically anything he wishes that is none tank especially with stoneplate sion rebirth bursting people before they can even say damage,him having the ability to constanly eat towers alive and his shield that the second you are close to killing him he presses it and gains almost have his hp in health ,also why does his e for some reason proc grasp of the undying(i have checked this it really does or at least the time of me posting this it does) viktor's latest build that makes him unkillable due to his passive already giving him a massive amount of AP so he can afford to build to build tank items and have a never ending shield and movement speed while slowing anyone who dares to fight him nasus - yes i said nasus the champ everyone always says to just put behind/camp to win the spin is you cant control people so you cant force a camp and even if you do try to put him behind its not the easiest thing depending on who you are playing he has passive lifesteal and with his q scaling and building tank items he will eventually do all the damage he needs just with q and can we talk about why his ult is so overloaded percent hp damage hp gain cooldown reduction and he gains more armor and magic res while he's using it per second? come on now people hate on yasuo and akali but for christ sake you catch them you kill them and you dont need your entire team to deal with them if you play better than your oppenent there are many more things to ad to this but we've all had that moment were even garen simple as it gets just elimates your hp while you are unable to do anything about it in a matter of seconds even though you have been trading with him all the time but hey he's always full hp even though you poke him alright i open myself to the opinions of everyone i just hope at least 1 rioter will think this over a little we arent lcs teams that prain for hours together we are people who go into few games a day with each other you cant give us these things to fight that would require lcs teamplay and coordination to fight all the time.

12 Comments

chipndip13 votes

I think this thread needs to be hooked on phonics...

Murasaki No Bara1 votes

yea excuse the horrid english

Tahminatrix 2 votes

I think you were confusing tanks with defensive/duelist builds on high base damage already strong snowball champs, when I tried regular fizz I said it wasn't fair and didn't go back to him because he was too strong lol.

But seriously, building tanky has its drawbacks, you cant go from killing one person to the next nearly as fast which makes being useful in groupfights a lot harder and youre more likely to be ignored entirely, unless youre playing a juggernaut or something.

Murasaki No Bara1 votes

i get the misunderstanding here my fault on the poor explanation i wasn't using those champs as tanks per say iw as saying at the time when these builds were a thing and it was really unhealthy to deal with and yes the draw back of slower killing is true but there is also that upside of being alive long enough to be able to chase the next kill which was partly why those champs with those builds was so unhealthy

nGio2 votes

So the 3 tanks that you played were Viktor, Fizz, and Ekko, and "tanks need to be nerfed"? Holy shit man, this is why tanks have been so bad for so long. People don't even know what a tank is, which probably has to do with the fact that I haven't seen one in the jungle since the Sej nerfs. Listen bud, Vik, Fizz, and Ekko clearly aren't tanks, because tanks could never last as long as these 3 do in team fights.

Murasaki No Bara1 votes

you have the same misconception as super cow i was referring to those builds being unhealthy and not fun to play against and used them as examples of things i personally played and thought they were not fair you basically ran past anything related to the tanks for example sion cho talk

Murasaki No Bara1 votes

sorry if my writing is sloppy i just wanted to get it all up please excuse the errors if their is any confusion or serious errors to correct let me know and I've clarify/fix it.

KOGMIDONLY1 votes

Imo they are weak as shit. Maybe if ur low elo u feel this. Plus ur poll didn’t have a needs a buff option, the poll is bias too.

Murasaki No Bara1 votes

purposely avoided that for 1) alot of people would pick option 3 just be be troll against the topic of the post if they dont think they need to be nerfed i think its fair to say no they are fine and that would hold up well enough and i'd probably have to also have a section there that says increase damage as well if i were to do that 2) this low elo thing needs to be stopped already in the game everyone see's your rank or what not and immediately what you think doesn't matter or matters way too much depending on where your rank falls literally never cared about rank and honestly no one should because going by that logic your basically saying if you aren't challenger, yes challenger cause that would be the only true undeniable high elo your opinion doesn't matter and the game shouldn't be healthy for you because at "high elo" a good 1% of the player base who to be fair only play like 20 champions at most determine how everything in the game. the worst part of this high elo thing is its never agreed upon like silvers thing silver 1 is high gold think gold is high plat thing plats high diamonds think that is high and etc etc then everything below where they are is deemed "low elo" and have some superiority complex for they poor guy 1 division under them skill difference is a thing but do we really need to bring up this low elo thing every league conversation bleh as you can see i go off tangent but hopegffully you get the message

KOGMIDONLY1 votes

Well I’ve been in top 10% no less for a few seasons and this season in my elo I haven’t seen a single tank, I know what the meta is currently to win games and tanks aren’t one of them. I’m only saying low elo cus typically lower elo players speak of tanks needing nerfs this season when they get face stomped by it. U get to higher elos the current meta the tops will 1v5 ur team no matter how many tanks ur team has or not.

KOGMIDONLY1 votes

Im low diamond hardstuck because I was previously a competent tank main previously in higher elos, I’ve been forced to adapt and learn other classes.

KOGMIDONLY1 votes

Well I’ve been in top 10% no less for a few seasons and this season in my elo I haven’t seen a single tank, I know what the meta is currently to win games and tanks aren’t one of them. I’m only saying low elo cus typically lower elo players speak of tanks needing nerfs this season when they get face stomped by it. U get to higher elos the current meta the tops will 1v5 ur team no matter how many tanks ur team has or not. Tanks are long gone man, it needs buffs. I think you’re referring more to other classes than tanks, like jugganaunts and battle mages

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