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What is so wrong about ADCs being glorified tower pushers?

Marenjii·8/12/2014, 6:08:22 PM·2 votes·660 views

The point of the game is to destroy the enemy Nexus. But to do that you need to destroy an inhib. But to do that, you have 3 towers impeding your advance. Calling them a glorified tower pusher, is basically saying that they are THE most useful class in the game. No other class can itemize AD, AS, and ArmPen for taking out towers(as well as having sustained damage over time for killing tanks, when items like Banshee's means your APC may need more than a full rotation to kill one) except for the melee carries. But the melee carries can't take a tower down from range. They have to be standing next to it, and as such are more vulnerable to the enemy team. If you lose a teamfight, but the enemy carry is dead, you probably bought your team some time as everyone on the enemy team is hitting the tower with a wet noodle. You may still lose it, but if the enemy carry was alive, you'd have lost 2 towers, or maybe a tower and an inhib.

Let's say your team lost an inhib and now super minions are flooding your base. Sure you may have a Ziggs, or some other wave clearing mage, but they won't be able to clear out that super mnion wave as good as an ADC. Ziggs hits a wave with everything he has, probably kills a few minions, and chunks the supers, but after a while will need to fill up on mana. But the ADC hits one at a time, while criting it for around 1k damage, and does not have to worry about a resource, and if there is a lot of minions, they can facetank them, and LS the health they are losing back.

I honestly see nothing wrong with ADCs being nothing more than tower pushers. What are assassins, but glorified killers. In the most balanced of cases they kill one person, make it a 4v4 for a while until their skills come off CD, and they can help the team, although teamfights should be over by time 3/4 of their rotation is back up. Mages, are either wave clearers, or AoE nukers. As an AoE nuker, all they do is kill people, which ADCs also do, but they suck at taking objectives. Tanks are glorified meat shields, that just stand there and press buttons in order to CC the enemy team. They just got to hope no one on the enemy team is fed so that they don't get melted. Support, are like tanks, that can't take a hit (bar Leona, Braum, and Taric. Not counting Thresh as he has no inherent tankyness, he just builds tanky, which anyone can do. Him being a CC bot, allows him to get away with it.) Lastly, fighters are a mess of a class, with no real specialization. They get out tanked by tanks, out DPS'd by ADC, and APC, and don't peel as well as supports generally do.

3 Comments

Hoi Im Temmo8/12/2014, 7:02:25 PM3 votes

Basic explanation of meta:

To win, you need to kill nexus. To kill nexus you need to kill inhib. To kill inhib, you need to kill towers. So to win, You need to be the MOST EFFICIENT at killing towers. So you build lots of ad, meaning you are now squishy. A squishy doesnt wna ttheir face smashed in, so they dont want to be near the enmy. So they need to be ranged.

Now you have an adc.

If both teams do this, the team with the ore fed adc wins....if thats the case, than they need all the farm in a lane. Ok. But they are squish, and prone to ganks, and weak in the early (relatively) - so they need some protection - but that means it is now someones job to baby sit the ADC.

Now you have a support.

Later in the game, you will need someone who can get close to the other adc, and cc them / keep them off your adc. This means they need to not get melted. Further, you need a damage soak for dragon and baron, and even towers when minions are not around.

Now you have a tank.

For your lanes, you have an AD dps, and a tank, so you need more damage. Well, if it's anohter AD DPS, the enemy builds lots of armor, and you have a problem - so you get an AP DPS, to force them to wither choose less damage, less armor, or less MR. So you go with the AP DPS.

Now you have a mage.

But what if you, despite your hard work and determination, are losing? If the enemy doesnt make a direct mistake, it can be hard to come back...so you will need some help. But if a teammate leaves their lane to help you, their lane opponent gets some free farm, and damage on a turret. We need a team member dedicated to helping the lanes stay in the game if they get behind. But he will have trouble farming minions while running around the map constantly - plus those lanes need their minions to stay caught up. So they will have to farm the jungle instead.

Now you have the jungler.

So - everyone on the team can be broken down in the manner you describe: ADC: glorified tower pusher Support: Glorified baby sitter. Tank: Glorified Wall Mage: Glorified distraction Jungler: Glorified stimulus package

That about right?

Teenbus8/12/2014, 6:10:01 PM1 votes

You can't push towers if you're dead, low on gold, and fenced into your base.