im glad that the CDR cap problem was solved by the runes- if you hit the cap, you still get a useful stat from extra CDR. but how about do something similar to champs that have no mana and just want to buy that frozen heart or abyssal mask, without sacrificing gold for the stat they have no use for?
H1 H0w are Ya5 votesThey already have an inherent advantage of not having to be gated by mana so no they don't need even more advantage
KirotheImmortal1 votes[{quoted}](name=H1 H0w are Ya,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tEl1o7Ta,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-01-22T23:33:47.250+0000)
They already have an inherent advantage of not having to be gated by mana so no they don't need even more advantage
Not realy. Some have extremly high CD to counter that. Others are squishy or not full damage with abilities
bywords701 votesmanaless version of champions are just better, vlad is clearly just a better version of swain, akali/kat is clearly just a better version of diana in fact every manaless ap champion is in a decent spot right now BECAUSE they have no mana
KirotheImmortal1 votesmanaless version of champions are just better, vlad is clearly just a better version of swain, akali/kat is clearly just a better version of diana in fact every manaless ap champion is in a decent spot right now BECAUSE they have no mana
Diana and Swain are bad examples. the reason they arent great is that they get gutted. They are such strong champs they never get buffs. and when they do they are gutted again. Diana has a far better kit then Akali. She not only can zone but is increadibly tanky and bursty compared to Akali.
Swain has been a champ who could 1v5 no problem more times then Vlad. Vlad has high cooldowns.
the issue with Akali right now beeing so strong isnt the fact she has energy cost. its the fact that you can no longer counter her invis. wich also gives her a small leap. It should be changed that if a controll ward is in her W she is visible. or at least a sweaper or something.
Kitsunes Lust2 votesi do have to agree with this to be honest. i often build trinity force on shyvana, and all of its stats are amazing for her (me personally anyways) but that 250 mana is useless on her, and it feels awkward being it left out. But with this being said, there are several champs that are manaless yes but each manaless champ have their own alternate form of a secondary bar, such as yasuos flow or gnars rage or shyvana's fury. with this being said, how would that mana replacement affect the ones with a unique secondary bar?
or at least decrease the items value slightly if they dont need mana so it's more "gold efficient."
DontTouchMyBall1 votesHow about "No".
My reasoning being that these manaless champs have already the advantage of not having to deal with mana management to sustain themselves. Besides, Akali would be one champ benefiting from this and I'd very much rather not see her getting a buff.
KirotheImmortal1 votesSomething like +1-2% CDR for mana items. That would make trinity force +2.5-5% cdr.
ZephyrDrake1 votesi mean sure if they get 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001 exp per mana then sure i would be up to it
KirotheImmortal1 votesI think a rune like this would make manaless champions strong enough to get nerfs.
