Instead of Vayne dealing 12% max health true damage every 3 hits, make it 4% on every hit

Laughing Fish··6 votes·1,864 views

Vayne is crazy weak right now, and I truly believe that most of the problems come from her not being able to use Hurricane like most adcs can. If they made it a simple 4% on hit, she could actually use hurricane. Plus it would no longer feel bad to fight her as you wouldn't get that sudden and unexpected chunk of 12% max health

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h5LYF41Lam13 votes

that sounds like what hitler would suggest if he was a league of legends player.

SGT Dingle Berry7 votes

Um, no.

hunterspec5 votes

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S0kaX5 votes

Go home LF, you're drunk

vOmvbrawfU5 votes

Let's take a min to acknowledge how many people think you're serious.

Vei3 votes

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Let's take a min to acknowledge how many people think you're serious.

best Fek ive seen

vOmvbrawfU2 votes

Can confirm.

Laughing Fish1 votes

Can confirm 2.0

Shadòw4 votes

when M&G becomes too boring

TheSequelsRBad4 votes

While we are at it, lets make Illaoi's spirit do True damage.

It barely does anything right now.

Laughing Fish1 votes

Now that is just silly

TheSequelsRBad2 votes

It is so stupid that I can't deal 75% of a tanks damage with one skillshot.

On live I can barely do half of a tanks health. Illaoi is barely playable.

Laughing Fish1 votes

If anything Illaoi needs to be nerfed. Make her tentacle grab melee range

TheSequelsRBad1 votes

Are you kidding me? She is can legit one shot anyone in the game in melee range. It is not fair that she can't one shot ranged champions as well. Just bias against melee champs.

Laughing Fish1 votes

No

Kr1sys4 votes

Except that removes strategy from Vayne. You don't have to make the decision of whether or not to get that next attack in when its sitting at 2 stacks.

Laughing Fish1 votes

How? It allows for a wider range of items

Kr1sys2 votes

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How? It allows for a wider range of items

The same can be said for you thinking changing it to each hit allows for a wider range of items. Hurricane doesn't mean a 'wider range'. It just doesn't change anything about Vayne in a meaningful way.

Silver bolts gives these interactions or decisions

  1. Vayne has to decide whether or not its worth to get that next attack in to proc the true damage.
  2. She has to decide whether or not to drop off the stacks to attack another target.

These are unique aspects of her kit that sets her aside from other ADCs. Removing this interaction just gives her true damage on every attack, which will probably result in being nerfed because there's no risk for each auto, there's risk and strategy for hitting 3 on the same target. You'll just be giving her essentially a kit like Kindred with stealth, but without the ult or stacking hunt passive.

Laughing Fish1 votes

No risk? She is THE squishiest champ in the game

Kr1sys3 votes

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No risk? She is THE squishiest champ in the game

No risk if you changed it to be true damage every attack, you're removing strategy from a champion.

And I'd put my money on Zac being the squishiest.

Laughing Fish1 votes

And I'd put my money on Zac being the squishiest.

-----> Your head

------> The joke

Kr1sys1 votes

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-----> Your head

------> The joke

I'd flip that around, just like your thought process on this idea on vayne

Laughing Fish1 votes

Agree to disagree tbh

FeuerfalkeFX3 votes

So you want to triple her true damage output plus add the benefit that if she only lands 1 or 2 attacks she still deals up to 8% max health true damage?

Jungle vayne incoming: item 1419 item 3153 item 3085 item 3742 item 3102 item 3047

Laughing Fish1 votes

Dude, she is trash tier atm. She needs some major buffs

FeuerfalkeFX2 votes

Buffing her like this would make her worse then the juggernaut patch.

4% max health true damage, 4%max health physical damage, 8% current health physical damage and being able to hit 3 enemies at once. (Plus there are maniacs out there like me who would add a guinsoos rageblade to double the damage)

She may deserve buff but no this kind of buff.

Laughing Fish2 votes

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9kPluzZ1 votes

Quick my Gameplay brethren, we must seal him away before he becomes to powerful! https://media.giphy.com/media/mJJczeZNee3uw/giphy.gif

ChaddyFantome2 votes

Lets us make Talon's Passive do % missing HP damage and apply grievous wounds too. Also, lets make him able to hop walls while invisible. ;D

Laughing Fish2 votes

Don't be silly

Kallian2 votes

this has got to be satire

Laughing Fish1 votes

Or maybe it is simply the truth.

Kallian1 votes

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Maligaro Spike2 votes

that's the best meme you ever made Laughing Fish

Dirty Bastard1 votes

That is just a bad suggestion. The whole point is to calculate your harass, like with other champs that have similar attacks, ie jhin, tf etc.

During laning the idea is to last hit 2 minions to get cs and then use your 3rdh attack to harass. 4 percent each shot is a horrible idea. If you want to add 4 percent to her aa then buy a long sword and forget this terrible idea.

Laughing Fish1 votes

I understand that you hate Vayne, but she REALLY needs to be significantly buffed before she turns into the next Galio

Dirty Bastard2 votes

Nothing in my post suggests I hate vayne. Your suggestion is a Nerf and not a buff. You need to learn how to harass with her to see 12 percent on 3rd attack if used properly is 100 percent better than 4 percent each hit. Clearly you just do not calculate your harass properly. Do the math, 3 shots at 4 percent max health of a 330 health champ takes 38.03 at 300 percent the time to inflict the health dmg versus 12 percent 39.60

Your logic is flawed, add to that the chance for enemy to walk after 13 dmg and heal and your 4 percent looks complete rubbish.

It would take 3 times the attack and vayne would lose all trades.

Laughing Fish1 votes

You can't harass properly with her currently, that is the problem

Dirty Bastard1 votes

Sure you can, you have to calculate your autos in between cs save the fourth shot to poke the enemy when they are out of position.

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