I think Olaf (the champion) should be made an energy or health based champion because he doesn't use magic, he throws axes, and it would fit his kit a lot more. He should use his health because of some sort of berzerker rage. please take these comments in and make him an energy based or health based champion or I will terrorize bronze 5.
TilerB17 votesThis is genuis olaf is total a viking and not mage why is riot being so dumb and they make him mana? so stupid riot fix this bug plese ur game is brokn 
TheKingDodo5 votesvikings use rage like 
. Full rage would boost his resilience? spend rage for damage? vice versa?
ProfDrDeath12 votesNow, that could be interesting.
Olaf could use Rage as a sort-of a stat redistribution mechanic:
His W could be a toggle to choose between rage generation with autos and rage consumption. His Q could increase his rage on cast, while E decreases it (as he puts all his fury behind the swing). His ult could possibly instantly put him at full rage and grant the CC immunity. After the ult, your rage will either be reset to zero (if W is in rage-suppressing mode) or stay at full (if in rage-generating mode).
His playstyle would be about carefully balancing his rage, as he could not avoid either building or bleeding rage, and managing the associated boni. Ideally, the boni would be made in such a way that, at 50%, he gets like 1/3 or the maximum possible stat.
Maybe it would also be interesting to deny him the ability to instantly switch from full rage to low rage or vice versa?
Ayame Isaki3 votesI've never played Olaf, but if he worked like this I would absolutely pick him up. This sounds awesomely fun.
Cindikle2 votesThis is more or less how it should be.
And not just Olaf. Many melee need this change. A lot of them are overall pointless in terms of having mana.
The Legend Momo2 votesYep, thats pretty much genius. 0-50% rage, gains armor and mr, 51-100% rage, loses defensive and gains ad and crit chance. When he ults, he gains a little bit of both.
eyes wide shut8 votesHealth makes sense since his kit is already pseudo hp costing.
AtheosisX7 votesLots of champs use mana that don't use magic.
Jert7 votesbut they are druids or something, olaf is literally just a viking
AtheosisX3 votesWhat on earth are you talking about?
Jert5 votesall the other people have like super powers and stuff, olaf is just a viking and throwing axes and stuff...
Sightless665 votesAnd hitting people with lightning. The nice, non-magical, lightning.
I wish Draven hit people with lightning. All he does is throw axes. Why does Draven need mana if he doesn't even get lightning?
Ayame Isaki9 votes
uses for resources. It happens to function like mana so that can have a boost to his regeneration through items and pots.
AFK Push1 votesbut they are druids or something, olaf is literally just a viking
Who cannot be stopped by any means when he is raging, and smites enemies with lighting like thor. I'm sorry but he is still "magical." Of course since he does already have an hp costing spell (which barely costs anything) I could see him being reworked that way.
The Loveless1 votesOld designs.
Also Tristana fully physical please.
TheKingDodo1 votesOld designs.
Also Tristana fully physical please.
AD scaling trist would be doing more damage than she already is... riot doesn't want to make her a jinx with resettable gapclosers/escapes
The Loveless1 votesThey can shave some base damage off. I just want to be able to build armor pen that works for more than right clicking.
BeatzBoyFTW6 votes
- Throws spears.
- Also throws spears.
-Throws a flag from his metal lance.
And all of these are mana-base champions, why make Olaf an exception? And second, why energy? He is not a freaking ninja. And lastly, he is pretty rare to be OOM since only his Q & W costs mana.
Abominate7 votes
And all of these are mana-base champions, why make Olaf an exception? And second, why energy? He is not a freaking ninja. And lastly, he is pretty rare to be OOM since only his Q & W costs mana.
Nid transforms into a fucking cougar
Pantheon jumps millions of feet into the air and lands unharmed
Jarvan makes a wall out of nothing
Gunpoint1 votesJarvan makes a wall out of nothing
Jarvan makes a wall out of the ground with the force of his leap. He still summons a wierd yellow explosion around him and shields himself though... which is kind of magical.
JustMyBassCannon1 votesTo be fair, he jumps a meter or two off of the ground and manages to leave a fucking crater.
Implying either the use of magic or he's wearing armor that's much heavier than it appears.
Jert5 votesbecause Olaf is cool and a viking, and he already has 1 spell with no cost, and 1 spell with health. he basically deserves it.
Kuroi862 votesIt could be argued that the mana cost is about them regaining said weapon without having to pick them up.
The point of champs using mana is typically to act as a gate and keep them from being too strong, too early.
Dat ax and dat true damage... needs a gating.
Jert4 votesthe true damage has a health cost, and the axe could use a charge system.
Kuroi861 votesDoes the true damage also cost mana? If it does, then that is just odd, I'd have it cost one or the other. And you're right about the charge system on axes, I mean he carries two doesn't he?
Gavran1 votesWhat, you'd have him throw both of his axes an then just punch stuff?
... wait nevermind I convinced myself to be on your side.
Defenestration V6 votesi think this is a very rational idea, considering olaf is not that strong at this point in time
Leti the Yeti3 voteswhen i fight olaf this happens the rate at which his hp decreases.....decreases exponentially over time while in direct correlation to the rate MY hp decreases.... increasing exponentially over time ;l
fighting hi leads to some of the most bullshit .7 seconds kinda like tryndafuq
Hayaishi3 votesOlaf was made when Riot cared about resource management.
jeanperson3 votesmaybe rage since he is a berserker
poopoo peepee2 votesDarius doesn't use magic. Nor does Draven. Or Master Yi. Or Fiora. But they all use mana.
Jert3 votesDarius also spins at unreasonable speeds, Draven can throw huge axes that rend the ground and roll back to him, Yi can literally heal himself by shaking his sword and teleport around slashing people. Same with Fiora.
poopoo peepee4 votesDarius also spins at unreasonable speeds, Draven can throw huge axes that rend the ground and roll back to him, Yi can literally heal himself by shaking his sword and teleport around slashing people. Same with Fiora.
When Olaf uses his E, lightning comes down from the sky.
Your ARGUEMENT is invalid.
Jert3 votesyeah, and lightning also strikes randomly on earth, what is your point? they have proven that the rumor that lightning doesnt strike in the same place is false.
poopoo peepee3 votesyeah, and lightning also strikes randomly on earth, what is your point? they have proven that the rumor that lightning doesnt strike in the same place is false.
So your saying the fact that whenever olaf uses his e, lightning randomly strikes there, olaf does not cause it, is more likely than Darius spinning in a circle? Wut?
Jert4 votescoincidences do happen. and darius does spin extremely fast.
also thor is the god of lightning, and olaf prays to thor so i'm pretty sure thats normal.
poopoo peepee2 votescoincidences do happen. and darius does spin extremely fast.
also thor is the god of lightning, and olaf prays to thor so i'm pretty sure thats normal.
Saying Olaf does not use magic or anything, is just a normal thing. Then comparing him to a god, an inherently magic being.
Wutz.
Also, Olaf causes the Lightning. If he didn't, the metal on his chest would conduct it and kill him. It's not randomly striking there.
Also, when you read Kayle's lore, you learn that when a champion joins the league, the Summoners strengthen them with magic, if need be. Olaf definetely was strengthened to be able to fight something such as Cho'Gath. Accept it.
Jert2 votesI didn't compare Olaf to a god, nor is god a magical being, but a holy being.
Olaf's lightning hits the axe's metal, which has a wooden hilt, and wood doesn't conduct electricity, so it doesn't hurt him.
Olaf didn't need to be strengthened because he is already really strong cause he's a viking.
poopoo peepee2 votesI didn't compare Olaf to a god, nor is god a magical being, but a holy being.
Olaf's lightning hits the axe's metal, which has a wooden hilt, and wood doesn't conduct electricity, so it doesn't hurt him.
Olaf didn't need to be strengthened because he is already really strong cause he's a viking.
The 1st part I will take back, I misread. The second part... The energy from the Lightning would hit olaf'so chest. Even if it didn't, the wooden handles would be destroyed. So, they are magically enhanced.
Third, yes, Olaf was magically strengthened. Even for a Viking, which is just a buff guy, he couldn't not survive being chomped on by a chogath. He'd have a huge part missing.
No offense, but are you either drunk, high, or 9?
Jert2 votesI don't know why the energy would hit Olaf's chest, nor why the wooden handles would explode.
He is a viking, do you have any proof of how strong a viking is?
Also there is no reason to insult me by asking if I'm 9 or high or drunk.
poopoo peepee3 votesI don't know why the energy would hit Olaf's chest, nor why the wooden handles would explode.
He is a viking, do you have any proof of how strong a viking is?
Also there is no reason to insult me by asking if I'm 9 or high or drunk.
The wooden handles would explode because lightning is extremely powerful. Have you seen pitchers of trees that were hit by lightning? When lightning hits something, most of the time, it will cause a small explosion. And, Vikings are just normal people, who are generally a bit larger and hairier.
Also, Olaf would not pray to Thor since Scandanavia, where the Norse religion was practiced, does not exist in Valoran. And sorry for that last comment, but your srguements are a little... Eh.
Dryditch2 votesThe wooden handles would explode because lightning is extremely powerful. Have you seen pitchers of trees that were hit by lightning?
I can't say I have, but I have seen pictures.
Alëk2 votesIf you think about it. It fits into his concept. He's a berserker. He lusts battle and always wants to fight. He can fight whenever. Anytime and everytime. Util he's out of mana. Well woops the relentless berserker ain't relentless no more. what a shame. I think energy based is better.
Salidfingers2 votesI'm main olaf top now a days and i would have to say i would love it, But honestly ill just stay top lane forever with just W alone.
Why i say this! I am able to bully out or kill almost all top laners alone with most of my HP still intact. This wouldn't be fair for the other guy.
Avious2 votesLol i had forgotten about this champion. Although, I don't really play Olaf I have to say Mana doesn't suit him at all. However, if it were to change his W would have to change as well since it would be a spammable free sustain ability with no cost. Other than that I like the idea.
PickleBabah2 votesIf he was energy, he should be able to use spells when he's out of energy at the cost of health. This would make the most sense since he'd: -Have more control over his passive. -Still be gated through costs -Be more thematically relevant -Have more clear peaks and lows for damage.
LongFur Fox1 votesMain reason for not having olaf be an energy based champion: His axes are poke and in a winning lane (which will happen in melee matchup) having access to poke on short cooldown which is only gated by cd is toxic. If he is health based it would be a bit better but the same argument still applies.
Jert3 votesmake him have a certain amount of charges on his axe throw like teemo shrooms or something.
Bijorn1 votesMain reason for not having olaf be an energy based champion: His axes are poke and in a winning lane (which will happen in melee matchup) having access to poke on short cooldown which is only gated by cd is toxic. If he is health based it would be a bit better but the same argument still applies.
, 
and 
would like a word with you.
Yes, Kennen isnt technically melee true. But all three use energy, and have a long range poke gated by CD.
Anyway. My biggest issue with Olaf is that he just can not stick to targets. His axes are very easy to avoid. I believe that if the missile speed was increased that could fix his problem. I want to be able to really choose my summoner spells depending on the matchup instead of 100% of the time grabbing ghost. He is one of the few champions that absolutely NEEDS a very specific spell.
He also has a lost sense of identity. Is he a tank? Is he a damage dealer? Regardless of what you take, there are still plenty of champions that do that job better.
The mobility creep that has recently happened in league has completely destroyed Olaf. That is THE biggest issue overall. Unless this is fixed (I have no idea how it could be, and do not believe it is possible) then Olaf will never be able to win more than the maybe half-a-dozen matchups that he does now.
LongFur Fox1 votesRumble can be blocked by minions and the same with kennen. Zed loses a huge part of his all in damage when he does poke with shurikens. When olaf pokes he loses very little all in potential creating a situation where you could sit back and take his poke or go all in and die since throwing a q that does not hit doesn't create the same opening as it does when zed does it. The main problem with olaf as i see it is that his whole kit has to be balanced around his ultimate giving him immunity to cc. The effect of that is that he can not have a speed up or a dash or anything like that as then he becomes overbearing to low mobility adcs. Maybe more missile speed on his q can do it but i am not sure.