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Can we like, make this game actually fun even if you lose?

McKormicKman··4 votes·1,311 views

Like jesus...I can't have fun while playing behind. Doesn't matter if I'm soloque or 5 man, it's fun for no one. This game demands so much of your time for just a victory screen. Let's go through this-

Laning phase - Literally nothing but farming and fighting your laner. (occasionally coming into your lane and ruining everything) This is honestly the most uninteresting phase of the game. If you don't win your lane you slowly lose your sanity and tilt off of the earth. Even it's not you, it's gonna be someone else if they're losing. The moment you're starting the game and you're already upset and want to ff. And 70% of the time your team flames you if you're having a bad game (WHICH DOES NOT HELP AT ALL)

Mid Game - Walking around the map trying to push lanes that haven't been pushed. Skirmish occasionally and annoy the shit out of other laners who didn't ask for you to be in their lane when they've been by them-self for 20 mins(especially if it's losing)

Late game - Literally everyone walking around trying to benefit off of other people's stupidity instead of individual skill, and constantly seeing greyscreens or those 2 morons who won't ff a clearly lost game. No one knows what they're doing and they're just trying push and teamfight. Push team fight. Nothing of value happens till some idiot gets caught out

THIS ISN'T FUN. NONE OF THIS IS FUN FOR THE LOSING TEAM. You just get frustrated while the enemy team gets to fuck around and delete you every minute. Then eventually your brain just turns off and you stop caring. This eventually just pisses you off and ruins the rest of your day and as much as you want to stop playing, this scumbag company purposely made this addicting so it's near-impossible to quit.

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Farkinob2 votes

Copy/pasting a reply for a similar post:

We can't win every game, but understand friend that on average you will rise/fall because that awful jungler has a equal chance of being on the enemy team. I never ever surrender in ranked because I've seen comebacks hardcore (Like our nexus has no health and 2 of our inhibs are down, we team wipe, push hard, and GG through inner tower midlane.).

Although I'm not a psychologist, it seems like you have a very pessimistic view of what happens to your team. Don't. View it as a learning opportunity!

For example, I love playing games were we are losing (Even if we lose) because it teaches you more about mechanics and positioning, not very hard to beat a enemy champion when you're fed and team is stomping. Which one do you think you learn more in; wrecking going 10-0-5 15 minutes in OR facing a higher elo player, going 3-5-2, and using tactics and capitalizing on their mistakes?

I used to be upset as well when enemy would get first blood on a jungle gank and bot would die, leaving the score 0-3. Now, I view it as "Ok, I have to step up my game, buy wards to make sure that I don't get ganked, and focus hard on farming/capitalizing on mistakes the enemies do AND I have to watch the map and help my teammates with pings/wards/support items/etc. AND I have to try to buy items that counter the fed/enemy team comp to counter their high gold.

View it as that friend :) If that doesn't work I recommend taking a break, there's lots of fun games out there and you can always come back later when the moment is right for you!

Best of luck to you summoner!

EDIT: Let me expand upon this as, being a bronze/silver elo player before when I came back I made friends with a diamond player and a gold player doing normals; initially I would lose but I analyzed WHY I would lose lanes and learned more losing then I ever did winning. Now doing ranked I'm playing with silvers and view the game as too easy and win a lot of my matches

xDogMeatx1 votes

honestly there should be more comeback defenses instead of relying on enemy mistakes it kinda lowers counterplay chances therefore ruins fun/good sportsmanship due to one sided face stomps.

Farkinob1 votes

It would definately be nice, however if that were the case and they had more comeback defences, kills/gold wouldn't mean too much. It should make the players stronger imho

xDogMeatx1 votes

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It would definately be nice, however if that were the case and they had more comeback defences, kills/gold wouldn't mean too much. It should make the players stronger imho

We wouldnt want a rubberbanding effect but i feel if the enemies are more ahead than i feel the objectives and towers should gain more power vs them so that the losing team can use it to their advantage possibly do a comeback.

dragfin121 votes

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Like jesus...I can't have fun while playing behind. Doesn't matter if I'm soloque or 5 man, it's fun for no one. This game demands so much of your time for just a victory screen. Let's go through this-

Laning phase - Literally nothing but farming and fighting your laner. (occasionally coming into your lane and ruining everything) This is honestly the most uninteresting phase of the game. If you don't win your lane you slowly lose your sanity and tilt off of the earth. Even it's not you, it's gonna be someone else if they're losing. The moment you're starting the game and you're already upset and want to ff. And 70% of the time your team flames you if you're having a bad game (WHICH DOES NOT HELP AT ALL)

Mid Game - Walking around the map trying to push lanes that haven't been pushed. Skirmish occasionally and annoy the shit out of other laners who didn't ask for you to be in their lane when they've been by them-self for 20 mins(especially if it's losing)

Late game - Literally everyone walking around trying to benefit off of other people's stupidity instead of individual skill, and constantly seeing greyscreens or those 2 morons who won't ff a clearly lost game. No one knows what they're doing and they're just trying push and teamfight. Push team fight. Nothing of value happens till some idiot gets caught out

THIS ISN'T FUN. NONE OF THIS IS FUN FOR THE LOSING TEAM. You just get frustrated while the enemy team gets to fuck around and delete you every minute. Then eventually your brain just turns off and you stop caring. This eventually just pisses you off and ruins the rest of your day and as much as you want to stop playing, this scumbag company purposely made this addicting so it's near-impossible to quit.

With the current sad state of the gamer community today and the fact that the developers have taken away any ability to hold bad players accountable we will always have this. You will always have more bad players to join ques and end up on your team. It's the nature of the beast when you have nothing in place like the old days to punish bad gamers. In the old days if you were bad, you didn't get to play the game at it's fullest because nobody wanted you on their team. So you got better or didn't play.

Now because society encourages failure at everything, those who wish to improve themselves get lost in the fold with the plethora of failures and are forgotten and those that fail repeatedly get rewarded.

That is what we have to deal with today so the developers can make money. It won't change because nobody in power positions have the balls to bring actual accountability back into gaming.

xDogMeatx1 votes

so your saying is that if your bad gamer (but you tried your best) or have a bad game you deserve punishment? that sounds pretty corrupt if you think about it. thats like saying if you didnt do your job or if you dont well in a sport you go to prison (aka the perma ban thing) If im reading that right if not can you elaborate please. honestly i believe if someone is drinking though or getting high in matches on league and losing in the process anyways yes it deserves some punishment but not no "chop off the head " punishment.

dragfin121 votes

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so your saying is that if your bad gamer (but you tried your best) or have a bad game you deserve punishment? that sounds pretty corrupt if you think about it. thats like saying if you didnt do your job or if you dont well in a sport you go to prison (aka the perma ban thing) If im reading that right if not can you elaborate please. honestly i believe if someone is drinking though or getting high in matches on league and losing in the process anyways yes it deserves some punishment but not no "chop off the head " punishment.

It's all about trends.

If you don't do your job you should get replaced.

Depending on what level of the sport you are playing would decide what to do with that. If you are playing in a recreational league then fine but if you are playing for a competitive league you should ride the bench until you are better than the player replacing you.

Somehow society has gone and allowed people to fail regularly without repercussions and now it has infected every facet of life itself.

Similar to sports there should be a better separation of those that don't do well. That is the punishment I spoke of. I'm not talking about perma bans. This bracket system is garbage. I understand most players are bronze level but there needs to be lower tiers. I understand you will never get rid of all the trash because people are just born that way and they feed off ruining other peoples time but to have so many games ruined by those people is ridiculous when they can just keep doing it.

I just feel that they can do a lot better to encourage better play but the dollar rules all, so we have to deal with a lot of inferiority if we want to play today and hope that we can get good games with 10 good players.

It don't happen often.

xDogMeatx1 votes

{quoted}

It's all about trends.

If you don't do your job you should get replaced.

Depending on what level of the sport you are playing would decide what to do with that. If you are playing in a recreational league then fine but if you are playing for a competitive league you should ride the bench until you are better than the player replacing you.

Somehow society has gone and allowed people to fail regularly without repercussions and now it has infected every facet of life itself.

Similar to sports there should be a better separation of those that don't do well. That is the punishment I spoke of. I'm not talking about perma bans. This bracket system is garbage. I understand most players are bronze level but there needs to be lower tiers. I understand you will never get rid of all the trash because people are just born that way and they feed off ruining other peoples time but to have so many games ruined by those people is ridiculous when they can just keep doing it.

I just feel that they can do a lot better to encourage better play but the dollar rules all, so we have to deal with a lot of inferiority if we want to play today and hope that we can get good games with 10 good players.

Can you give examples that trash play is more accepted than good play and 2ndly yes its sometimes dice rolls that i hate due to luck.

Cats Are Food1 votes

It used to be, but the answer you get from the community now days is:

"This game isn't for fun! It's for domination! You either win or you suck at life!"

Moonscourge1 votes

Losing has always sucked in this game and every game like it. It's natural to get worked up over it too. There are the really good games that you're not mad about, but if you get stomped or stomp yourself it really doesn't get exciting like that.

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