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ZED IS NEAR PERMA BAN IN GOLD 4

99Palms··4 votes·1,607 views

i just started ranked about a month ago and im having a really hard time in gold 4. I main zed and i only play zed but he is banned 90% of the time. My problem with that is the mental state of nearly EVERYone that bans him... are you all just stupid?

your banning a champion that has no late game. Doesnt matter if he goes 20/2, in late game its entire enemy team going full tank build, zhonya, GAs. The most common argument i see is that zed's lanning and his outplay advantage. What you all need to get into ur heads is that being able to outplay and get kills DOESNT mean zed can WIN the game. WINNING THE GAME depends on TEAM FIGHT, NOT 1V1. it doesnt matter if zeds fed because he has no team fight advantage and weak late game, and winning the game depends solely on those 2. Riot already gave you noobs stopwatch, armor, hp, and cc, so how are you still losing to him?

there are so many r%%%%%ed champions that fuked up this games meta and they are never banned. Irelia, darius, fiora, riven...etc etc etc...these are NEVER banned but you all ban zed?..

a champion who has not been viable since season 3 in competitive matches but gets perma banned in EVERY SINGLE LEAGUE?

are you all just hate the fact people who are good at zed makes you feel like your noob?...

17 Comments

ChaosReyn7 votes

So...in short: Buff Zed, nerf armor, right?

Except they recently did buff Zed, and it's made his early game a complete nightmare. Sure, his late game is garbage...which is why most games with a competent Zed player usually end pre-25 while he's 20/2. Not to mention that other than Irelia, all of those champions you just mentioned are kinda dogshit...unless you're one of the 3 people who can play Fiora, you're not doing much. Riven is exactly like Zed, only has even shorter range on her kit and even weaker late game. Darius is a noob slayer at best.

If you would have talked about actually busted or downright annoying champions (cough-vayne-cough-zoe-cough-neeko) I might've been a little more intrigued, but you know what you named specifically? People who love to trash bad Zed players.

Which tells me about everything I need to know. >.>

Malix Farwin1 votes

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So...in short: Buff Zed, nerf armor, right?

Except they recently did buff Zed, and it's made his early game a complete nightmare. Sure, his late game is garbage...which is why most games with a competent Zed player usually end pre-25 while he's 20/2. Not to mention that other than Irelia, all of those champions you just mentioned are kinda dogshit...unless you're one of the 3 people who can play Fiora, you're not doing much. Riven is exactly like Zed, only has even shorter range on her kit and even weaker late game. Darius is a noob slayer at best.

If you would have talked about actually busted or downright annoying champions (cough-vayne-cough-zoe-cough-neeko) I might've been a little more intrigued, but you know what you named specifically? People who love to trash bad Zed players.

Which tells me about everything I need to know. >.>

You are pretty clueless. If a Zed player loses early he is useless for the rest of the game and you are calling champions that are busted which are not(only exception is Vayne who is getting nerfed).

If Zed picks up free kills pre-6 its people handing him kills. He's an assassin with a pretty predictable laning pattern. You know all Zed players are going to poke you done before the all and you know all Zed players are going to roam if they can get kills on u in lane. A lot of times Zed getting kills have little to do with the actual Zed players and even when fed if it isnt massive enough he won't be able to carry the game.

As to the real reason he is getting banned. Its either because A. They simply do not want to deal with a Zed, B. he counters their pick, or C. they do want to have to build against him/ feel they may not be able to carry/snowball if he is in the game.

Should Zed be buffed? HECK NO but understand his strengths and why he is banned.

ChaosReyn5 votes

That's why I added in the "annoying" part of that. Zoe and Neeko are annoying...as is Zed.

Plz don't call people clueless when you have no reading comprehension. >.>

And you honestly answered your own question with your statement: most people who ban him simply don't like laning against him...since they buffed his early game especially, he's just annoying, and there's really no counterplay to *I spam shurikens with my energy champ until you're low enough to press R" other than playing super passive in a game otherwise known for its aggressive, flashy outplays.

Boltonator4 votes

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That's why I added in the "annoying" part of that. Zoe and Neeko are annoying...as is Zed.

Plz don't call people clueless when you have no reading comprehension. >.>

And you honestly answered your own question with your statement: most people who ban him simply don't like laning against him...since they buffed his early game especially, he's just annoying, and there's really no counterplay to *I spam shurikens with my energy champ until you're low enough to press R" other than playing super passive in a game otherwise known for its aggressive, flashy outplays.

I personally love using Lulu R right as Zed is about to reappear from his Mark of Death animation just to fuck with the timing of his skills. I’ve had many bad Zed players rage when I foil their plot.

ChaosReyn2 votes

That, or just throw a bubble on your death marked teammate and laugh at the guy.

But either way, if mid would rather just ban him, I certainly wont complain. It is a lot of effort to stop his snowballing as a support when your team won't focus. xD

99Palms1 votes
  1. his recent buff didnt made him any better...plz dont argue on this one.
  2. if you argue those braindead monkies are dogsh1t, then i really dont need to waste more of my time with you.
  3. i said etc etc...i just didnt include them yet.
  4. i think you dont really play zed, because its clear you dont know his strength and weaknesses.
The thigh guy5 votes

Found the salty assassin main.

It’s because no one wants to deal with this braindead ass champion. He litteraly only fun for 1 person in a zed game.

PlsBuffMyMain3 votes

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Found the salty assassin main.

It’s because no one wants to deal with this braindead ass champion. He litteraly only fun for 1 person in a zed game.

Zed is not broken or braindead lol

Colte4 votes

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Zed is not broken or braindead lol

zEd Is NoT bRoKeN oR bRaInDeAd LoL

[sg-miss-fortune]

The thigh guy4 votes

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Zed is not broken or braindead lol

7/44 in midlane disagrees.

Also that champion is most definitely braindead. The hardest thing you’ll ever have to do is land a triple q, which fun twist, you’ll never have to do because your kit alone does more than enough to all but the tackiest of tanks to kill them.

heroikc4 votes

Solution to your problem, play someone other than Zed.

99Palms1 votes

my answer, tell these gold kids to use their brain instead of their emotions when it comes to making decisions...it will help them out a lot both in games and in life.

heroikc1 votes

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my answer, tell these gold kids to use their brain instead of their emotions when it comes to making decisions...it will help them out a lot both in games and in life.

Sorry that you "only" play Zed mid and can't stand him getting banned (because he did get a big buff), but good League players should have spares for any role; I'm a casual player and I have at least four options per role, even the ones I don't want to play.

Whomp3r3 votes

Hey fellow summoner, Zed is literally better in meta than every champ you said should be banned instead except for riven(also notice you didn't list a single mid lane champ due to the fact you win just about every match up after the Q buff), Zed is incredibly abusive in lane after the Q buff and has very few poor match ups in his current state and with the Hard Lissandra , Sylas , and Kayle nerfs, he has no bad matchups mid( MaybeZilean , but you dont play that lane to win it you play it to stay alive and Ekko is also decent against ). also due to the fact his q was buffed is makes it easier for him to not get shoved into tower (making the enemy player not able to roam as much). He is incredibly lane dominant and yes he falls off later in the game but if you get strong enough it wont get there. And here is a link to my Mastery points on zed so you don' t think im just another salty player https://imgur.com/a/dDszipc

Colte2 votes

if i dont ban zed mid feeds zed then they start roaming and wipe bot lane by himself, you should roam more and prevent enemy laner from growing (for example you haven't killed the sivir even ONCE so she had a score of 8/0/8) help your team grow and you will win your team fights.

so the solution to zed permabans is to have a back up champ like fizz mid or the "reterded champions like irelia,dariius,fiiiora,riven top"

Tahminatrix 2 votes

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your banning a champion that has no late game. Doesnt matter if he goes 20/2, in late game its entire enemy team going full tank build, zhonya, GAs.

item 3071 Zed is broken considering it works so well with his lethality and gives him 400 hp.....You can nearly 100 - 0 a tank if you land your full combo (a mobile champion shouldn't have this kind of potential, even if it requires skill)

And even if they survive you still might aswell have deleted them since you just took the tank part out of that player and now they have to heal to be useful again.

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