Swain Q and E need an update

zeldaguy0·8/24/2014, 7:59:25 PM·2 votes·948 views

Swain Swain's Q currently does 3 ticks of damage over 3 seconds, his E does 4 ticks over 4 seconds. It would be nice if it got a update to damage sort of like Morgana Morgana's W. The ticks of damage should occur more like every .5 seconds considering Swain Swain is a DoT mage. This small QoL change would help make his damage more reliable and noticeable. I don't play Malzahar Malzahar, but I think his W and E are in the same boat. Most older champs who deal DoT.

8 Comments

Rew7118/24/2014, 8:11:28 PM1 votes

lol, i don't see why this matters too much though. swain isn't used much anymore. his Q though has a flaw where if you go to far away, and its not that big of range, it just stops... its not too powerful. especially at first. besides. wait until they get new awesome skins that make people play these guys more to have better effect. a good amount of people don't even care for swain anymore which is sad cause he is fun to play.

Typhoom8/24/2014, 8:45:20 PM1 votes

Honestly, what's the point of this at all? This would actually lower damage because it would be more ticks to be reduced by MR, and aside from that it does......what? Makes you feel a bit better because you see more smaller numbers instead of fewer bigger ones?

zeldaguy08/25/2014, 1:48:37 AM1 votes

These are the kind of buffs though that help champions who should be picked up. It's not a big change, but as a Swain player, it would really help with better readability and sustained damage.

Sneak Dog8/25/2014, 12:50:45 PM1 votes

On the E the damage stays the exact same and the only benefit I can think of is that you might kill someone 0.5 seconds earlier. Morgana pool needs the higher tick rate because it's dodgable while already in effect, which is why it would be a good change on the laserbird but unnecessary on his other DoT.

Pryotra8/25/2014, 2:13:05 PM1 votes

Swain isn't about the DoT on his E, believe it or not. And there is literally no reason to change it. It's excessively powerful, and it's not like you can dodge it after it's on you.

As for swain's lazarbird, quite frankly I use it for a free peel/auto kite more than I do the damage. I mean, I'm already a raid boss late game, I only need the damage mid game, and that is when I'm trying to get squishies that will die to my E+W+ a crow or two from my ult.

It's not like S1 or 2 anymore, where people would force you to be concerned about your DPS due to mr being litterally everywhere.

Earl Eulrich8/25/2014, 2:17:27 PM1 votes

I don´t think that´s necessary...it´s just the essence of what swain is - stay in his range for too long and he´ll drain you down, kite him and he´ll be a crippled old man. So for the q I think it´s very crucial that the ticks don´t come to often, and for the e i don´t think it would make much of a difference.

I2enegacIe8/26/2014, 3:02:12 PM1 votes

His q could use some sort of update as you rarely get all three ticks off and it's range is awful but I must diagree with E. It is his main spell and is excellent in lane for poking.