Kalista isn't OP
Or fun to play against
Edit: Wow! A lot of upvotes. Some people have missed the point though, i'm just saying she is horrible to play against, even though she is not OP.
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I think Kalista is fine early game, it is once she gets a few kills and builds attack speed she becomes unmanageable. For example, I was playing a game the other day as graves ADC with a Garen jungle and Nami support. We were doing fine in lane until Garen ran in at level 2. Once Garen's q had ended, he wasn't fast enough to catch kalista and she managed to kite him and kill him. She came back afterwards with a recurve bow which we thought was no big deal. That is until she immediately dashed her way through the minions and straight for me. She moved so fast Nami couldnt land a bubble on her and despite me dashing away, she would rend and then continue the assault. Afterwards it was a slaughter and we had to surrender at 20 because she ended 16/1 just building attack speed.
The reason Kalista is OP is because of her build. She doesn't need to build damage nearly as much as any other marksman. She instead just needs attack speed and all her damage is in her E.
Kalista is fucking permabanned in Korea
Her kit is retarded, her mobility is just way too much
"WE DESIGNED HER TO BE A MOBILE CHAMPION WHILE FIGHTING" PROCCEDS TO JUMP A WALL WITH Q
Builds fucking Bloodthirster because with Rend she already destroys anyone
You need to 100-0 her or she will just kite you, and it's not easy at all with dumb shit like Janna or Morgana near
Fuck this champion and her retarded ult, instant Thresh lantern that procceds into a pretty much imposible to dodge knockup (plus the incoming CC of the support, it feels awesome when you get knocked up by Kalista, to then get knocked up again by Alistar, to then get knocked back to them and die of 5 rend stacks WHY YOU COULD DO FUCKING ANYTHING)
She's a CertainlyT champ, of course she's going to be unfun to play against. At least until she gets nerfed, right Darius/Zyra?
Tell that to our korean overlords,who pick and ban(mostly ban) her every game.
That's the story for every certainlyT champ after about a year where they break the game.
I know this post is just yet another on the topic that'll go into the void but for me I just think her kit is horribly made. Like, worse than Yorick or Yasuo. I legit hate her design.
Everything in her kit is "here is a way you can outplay your opponent" and that's not necessarily a bad thing because it could lead to some cool plays (say what you want about Fizz but Troll Pole can be used to do cool stuff, for example). But she's an ADC with one skillshot. Almost all her damage is targeted, there's no counterplay to it other than counterbuilding with Thornmail and that doesn't even stop her Rend. There are lots of things you can do against ADCs to stop their damage (focusing them, CCing them, anything) but as regards outplaying them? Nothing really. Outplay on someone with lots of skillshots/unreliable combos would be cool. Not on the most reliable class in the game.
So you have a champion you can't really outplay. That's fine. Nobody really expects that from an ADC. But what's not fine is when an ADC has a counter to basically everything you do. Focus Kalista? She'll kite you. CC her? She'll dodge every skillshot. Manage to lock her down? She'll pull her support to rescue her. And even when you make an active (generally worse) choice to focus her SUPPORT because you know trying to get Kalista is pointless, she can stop you. A Kalista/Soraka lane sounds like a poor combo but it's a total nightmare once you realise that if you focus Soraka Kalista will save her and if you try to focus Kalista, Soraka will save her.
Her entire kit basically just says "No, you can't do that either". She's the LoL equivalent of Yugioh's Herald of Perfection. But Kalista has no trouble doing whatever she wants to do to you because she's an ADC with one unimportant skillshot who is particularly resistant to Thornmail. People suggest chasing her away from a team fight as counterplay as if Miss Fortune won't also be chased away by anyone who runs after Kalista.
tl;dr Kalista is a design nightmare because she has basically infinite outplay potential but there's no room to outplay anything she does. Playing against her is nothing short of hopeless.
Kalista is broken.
Or fun to play against
Or fun to support.
The only thing i have to say against Kalista is her Rend. She CAN NOT outsmite junglers. That is all i care about, other than that, that is up for Rito to decide whether they nerf her or leave her alone.
Kalista isn't OP, she is just conceptually flawed. Does an ADC who gains nearly infinite mobility by stacking attack speed items sound like a good idea to you? No of course not... and until they literally redesign her identity she will remain a problem. For this reason i wonder how she ever got released in the first place? I'm sure CertainlyT thought it was a good idea... but who greenlighted him?
Good luck getting baron or dragon if her team starts it first.
I think I can handle her fair enough by now.
It's just so fun when you finally catch her. She can kite you, she can damage you, but without her support she has no cc or self-peel outside her kiting. One point-and-click spell close range or simple cc and it's GG.
However, the adc who gives me the most trouble is Graves and Ezreal, the burst and the spell flash respectively. But that's due to my lack of experience laning against them, not whether or not I think they're OP (tried Ezreal, not as easy as I thought he was).
Kalista isn't fun to play against, but she's damn well satisfying to kill. Even more than Teemo.
Kalista is not OP
Kalista needs an excessive amount of nerfs
I stand by both opinions
She's like LeBlanc.
Everybody hates her.
But she ain't the best around.
Just like crazy super toxic to play against.
The only reason I don't think she's a problem coming from an ADC main is because barely anyone can play her. Same for Yasuo, both are hilariously overpowered champions but the people who play them usually go like 0/10 from my personal experience, even though both champions are overpowered it's just that the general player is terrible with them and I probably see a good Kalista once a month.
No she isn't op at all. She was op before the nerf now she's fine. She's just a good adc.
"Land a skillshot? Why'd you want to do that?"
bruh, BRUH, tell that to the game.
Depends on the level I suppose. Div level that is.
give her high attack speed and you're gonna be covered in speares all over several times over
the only way to beat her is to hit her with hard cc and kill her with high dmg burst but even that also guarantees that more than one of your teammates loses a large chunk of hp
Finally someone said it.
if her team peels for her or has someone like kayle, sorry she becomes OP.
Yes hello?
Yeah, hi. I'm rank 5 Bear Stance on Udyr. Can I catch Kalista now?
Sorry, that isn't included with the rest of the benefits of rank 5 Bear Stance.
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But if you buy Trinity Force you can catch her after about 10 consecutive Bear Stances.
To fight against pokers and extreme mobile champions, they require hard CC. Malphite ulting and deleting her from existence with follow-up would be useful.